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Offline 908ssp

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« on: September 22, 2005, 09:43:37 AM »
I was playing along with a new DVD I received yesterday and the guitarist kept changing from a E to Eb tuned guitar so I had both my stock Classic with 1st generation pickups and my Deluxe with 2nd generation pickups at hand to make the changes as well. This is the first time I can remember making repeated back to back comparisons of the two. Simply put the Deluxe with the 2nd generation pickups just rocks. It was more powerful which brought out more harmonics and a wetter distortion. It had more mids which helped it cut through better. It had more sustain as the pickups are farther away from the strings. I can't wait to get 2nd generation pickups in the Classic I do love the feel of it being an 1/4 pound lighter then the Deluxe. [^]

Alex
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1999 Parker NiteFly S/S/H NFV7
2005 Emerald Acoustic X10
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Offline LooseChange

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« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2005, 01:02:28 PM »
Very cool... I can't wait to get mine. AND of course ask questions regarding the easiest way to make the switch.  Do you have any tips on this process?
Thanks!

Did you check out this place for the pickups??  http://www.jayturserguitar.com/clhefordicus.html

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« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2005, 03:59:40 PM »
I just want to clarify something here.  Are the Parker Fly pickups on the JayTurser site the pickups Alex is referring to?  The price seems almost too good to be true.  I have an old stock Deluxe and everyone raves about the benefit of upgrading the mags.  This looks like the bait that catches the fish.  

Thanks.  You guys rock!  (or jazz or whatever it is you do)
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Offline 908ssp

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« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2005, 04:52:28 PM »
Just your every day pickup swap [:D]

Actually it is pretty easy there isn't any heavy stiff shielding on the wire just four little wires from each pickup all color coded same as stock. Make a little sketch before you take it apart.

Yea the pickups on the Jay Turser site are the 2nd generation pickups. Pretty neat they offer all the optional color bobbins. [^]

Alex
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« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2005, 05:55:34 PM »
Alex, can u really tell the 1/4 lb difference or were you kidding? The parker promo says the new mojo is " about 5 lbs". I wonder if that means it could be 5 1/2 or what? Are classics usually lighter than other parkers? (I am after the lightest possible)....thanks, bill

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« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2005, 06:56:26 PM »
Alex,
Tell me about how the pickup is held on to the guitar?  Those 2 screws that are supposed to be the pickup height screws, do you just unscrew and pull the PU out?  Whenever I try those screws to adjust, they seem to do nothing.

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« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2005, 10:03:34 PM »
Absolutely the instant I picked it out of the case for the first time I noticed it was lighter then my Deluxe. I am very sensitive to that kind of thing I build light weight motorcycle parts for racing, weight is the enemy. [;)]

The Classic weighed 4 7/8 lbs on a digital postal scale the Deluxe weighed 5 1/8 for a 1/4 lb difference. I have no idea what other ones weigh, wood varies so I suppose it is possible that there is a lighter Deluxe and heavier Classic. I would buy another classic in a heart beat I love the transparent cherry finish.


You just unscrew the two hold down adjuster screws, you can feel when they release from the brass inserts. Then gently pull the pickups out of the cavities. I did not put foam under my new pickups as I believe solid mounting transmits more vibrations and sounds better. So I cut some cardboard shim 1/16 for the whole pickup and another 1/16 for the high E side to give the pickup a slight slant. I paper punched holes where the two screws go and put the shims in the bottom of the cavity make sure the wire doesn't get pinched and then put the pickups in, tighten the screws till they are flush and that parts done. [^]


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2005 Emerald Acoustic X10
2004 Maven Peal Ganesha
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« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2005, 06:40:12 AM »
Does your Classic have the single coil middle PU selector choice or do you have it modded with all Humbucker choices?  Mine is modded now and it's really great.

Thats what I needed to know.. Wasn't sure what was under those PU's.. Brass inserts.
SOunds like a great idea and I will probably do the same thing with the shims.

My shoulder ache from my five pounder.  Can't wait for the lighter load.  (Put my Strat on the other night, lasted 10 minutes!)

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Offline 908ssp

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« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2005, 09:47:35 AM »
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Originally posted by LooseChange

Does your Classic have the single coil middle PU selector choice or do you have it modded with all Humbucker choices?  



Mine are both modded I believe I was the one to first post about the mod here on the forum. That of course makes pickup installation even easier as there are less wires to be soldered. [^]

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2005 Emerald Acoustic X10
2004 Maven Peal Ganesha
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« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2005, 03:54:44 PM »
I give you credit for that mod. And very easy to do, i might add.
Did you cut those wires short and solder together near the PU?

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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2005, 05:55:22 PM »
No I left the wires long so that if I or someone else in the future wants to change it back they can.  But I really like the sound of the middle position without the coil split. I changed a friends Fly he has had it since 97 and said he never used the split middle position now he does use the middle position often.

I got a call from my dealer one of the two pickups I ordered came in yesterday. I told him to hold on to it as I am not going take the guitar apart for one pickup, oh well. I wanted to order a fancy custom color but I just can't imagine any better color for a cherry transparent Custom then black. [^]

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2005 Emerald Acoustic X10
2004 Maven Peal Ganesha
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« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2005, 10:55:56 PM »
alex--what do you think about this fishman mod ??  http://cgi.ebay.com/Parker-Fly-Mojo-MINT-No-Reserve_W0QQitemZ7353200914QQcategoryZ2384QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem...bill

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« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2005, 08:54:47 AM »
Hi Bill this should really be a new thread as your changing the subject no biggy just letting you know.

I don't think the battery wire means much maybe slightly better reliability.

As to the piezos that's is interesting and honestly a little confusing. Did Parker change to the double ball piezos on all the new Flys or just the Mojos? The ones pictured in the eBay ad (7353200914) look just like the old ones on my 96 and 98 guitars, are they different then that I don't know. Obviously if the balls are falling off Parker may have to rethink the change. Do they have less feed back or is that just wishful thinking.

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1999 Parker NiteFly S/S/H NFV7
2005 Emerald Acoustic X10
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« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2005, 06:44:56 PM »
Thanks Alex, wish i knew...think i may be over my head trying to buy a parker anyway--especially off ebay...will possibly be traveling to chicago mid october and hopefully will find time to find a store there with a few flys to try...none in sc...Sorry for the out of place thread...bill

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« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2005, 05:58:30 PM »
FYI, still waiting for those pickups... Report to follow.

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I like tubes... Check out all my DIY amps:
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