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Offline prjacobs

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« on: December 08, 2009, 07:57:31 AM »
Something I used to tell my son, when he was younger, before he knew better and stopped paying attention to anything that I say.

Assuming that you're going to perform standing up, it's a good idea to stand and practice.  In fact, I'm standing on one foot as I type this.....
 

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« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2009, 09:51:52 AM »
Yes, but do you need to practice the guitar faces at the same time?
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« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2009, 10:04:29 AM »
Good point. You do play differently when seated vs. standing up. It's not a problem for me today, but when I was beginning, it sure did make a difference. I play sitting about 50% of the time and standing about 50% of the time. There have been times that I have even played while on my back! [:I]

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« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2009, 11:22:40 AM »
Same here, early on it made a huge difference. Early on (back in the 1970/80's) my progress went a lot faster if I played sitting down and I would practice more and longer. Early on, when I played standing up, I could only play simple stuff at first and playing a Les Paul was a bit easier standing up that a Fender. At some point I switched to playing standing up with the guitar strap up so that my forearm would be at a 90-75 degree angle to my body - never more than 90 degrees. And, around that time I switched my sitting position to the classical position with the guitar on my left knee.

After about 10 years of playing the position of my forearm and elbow got to be fairly similar from my sitting and standing position. Now, I play with the guitar up kind of high - pretty much like this picture of Al DeMeola where his forearm is roughly 75-80 degrees - vertically - from his upper arm.



And my sitting position is the classical position without a foot rest. So, when I play standing up it is similar to my sitting position and I'm much more experienced at playing so it's not a problem.

I think the main issue would be if someone was playing standing up with the guitar really low - some may think that may look cool, but it's really tough to play well - I don't know how Joe Satriani does it? Here his forearm is - vertically - further from his upper arm - so it looks like he has to hunker down to play leads.

Parker and Stienberger guitars make the difference less as well - there is really no difference between my sitting standing when playing my Fly - with my NiteFly it's a small difference. Using my Stienberger there is a small difference as well - but those are pretty unique guitars to play.

The key I think is to play in an ergonomic position since that will likely help people to practice more and for longer periods. If one waits to learn how to play standing up until they get into a band I think that would work as long as they play standing up once in a while to get the feel for it. I would not advocate playing standing up all the time if it restricted practice time or results.
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« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2009, 01:37:16 PM »
I always "practice" standing. I noodle around, sitting on the couch, and play acoustic seated as well. But I always practice material for the bands standing, in front of my amp (situated as I would at a gig), mic and pedal boards in place. I sling a guitar a bit lower than most, but it used to be lower... I think it's very important to practice under the circumstances you will be facing live. Whatever they may be.

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Offline Paul Marossy

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« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2009, 07:37:12 PM »
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Originally posted by mojotron


After about 10 years of playing the position of my forearm and elbow got to be fairly similar from my sitting and standing position. Now, I play with the guitar up kind of high - pretty much like this picture of Al DeMeola where his forearm is roughly 75-80 degrees - vertically - from his upper arm.



And my sitting position is the classical position without a foot rest. So, when I play standing up it is similar to my sitting position and I'm much more experienced at playing so it's not a problem.

I think the main issue would be if someone was playing standing up with the guitar really low - some may think that may look cool, but it's really tough to play well - I don't know how Joe Satriani does it? Here his forearm is - vertically - further from his upper arm - so it looks like he has to hunker down to play leads.





I think I am pretty much the same as you as it sounds like I am reading about myself. I also don't know how people play their guitar with it hanging below their waist.

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« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2009, 10:09:19 PM »
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I think I am pretty much the same as you as it sounds like I am reading about myself. I also don't know how people play their guitar with it hanging below their waist.
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Ya - musically we have a lot in common [8D]

Come to think of it - back in the '90s when Joe had hair - people were wearing a lot of spandex; Talk about paying a price for looking cool.
 

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« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2009, 11:56:33 PM »
I'm still waiting for the orginal "parachute pants" to make their return. I'll pass on the spandex pants, though! [:D]

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« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2010, 05:06:03 PM »
you should always practice like you play.  perfect practice makes polished performaces.  for me it means practicing standing. and lots and lots of drinking.  and surronding myself with beautiful adoring women.  with the drums way too loud in the mix


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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2010, 04:22:27 PM »
quote:
Originally posted by prjacobs

Something I used to tell my son, when he was younger, before he knew better and stopped paying attention to anything that I say.

Assuming that you're going to perform standing up, it's a good idea to stand and practice.  In fact, I'm standing on one foot as I type this.....



So true...I play a LOT at home, usually seated, and also a lot in the studio where I am also generally seated. Nothing wrong with this, its comfortable to play, etc.

Its when you get ready to gig that you wish you had played standing up more often!!

I try to switch it up as much as possible now.

Scott