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Offline Metalus

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« on: December 10, 2009, 07:24:23 AM »

Ive been wondering about this for awhile. The current price is insane. If anything, I think it should be priced along the same lines as a Washburn WM526 seeing as theyre kinda like cousins. Hopefully they will drop the price at NAMM :D

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« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2009, 08:10:48 AM »
I wonder if a price drop would correlate to cheaper custom shop rates because, man, do I have some ideas for a custom Dragonfly.
 

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« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2009, 09:52:33 AM »
I can't even get a quote from the custom shop. I'm gettin extremely annoyed now. That being said I really love the Dragonfly shape. It seems as tho most people on here don't, but i'm dying for one.
 

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« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2009, 10:04:14 AM »
They cost around 2900 EUR in Europe. That's just insane! Either they can't be produced efficiently or someone is making a big profit (like 50 or more percent) on each guitar.
 

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« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2009, 10:18:17 AM »
2900 euros? ahahahahahahaha LOL ROFL LOL ... who's buying it???

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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2009, 10:18:58 AM »
Consider this: When the iPhone first came out, it was crazy expensive.  Now, you can get one much cheaper (not that they're cheap or cheaply made, just less expensive).  

Early adopters ALWAYS pay more for the privileged of owning the newest stuff.  In some ways, early adopters are paying for R&D and deployment.  Once a company sells quite a few units, production gets dialed in, AND there's an upward sales trend, prices come down.

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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2009, 10:20:14 AM »
I'm hoping all the new stuff coming up at NAMM will mean more revenue will mean cheaper Dragonflys!
 

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« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2009, 10:31:00 AM »
If Parker is following a "skimming" strategy in pricing that would be the case. Whether they are actually following that strategy - we don't know.
Anyway, since regular Flys cost around 2300-2500 € after being on the market for over 15 years there isn't really that much downward room to lower the price over time, while still maintaining seperation of the product lines.

Even if money wasn't an issue I wouldn't buy one at this price. 1800 € for a new Fly, maybe 2100 € for Dragonfly sounds about right from a buyer's perspective, given what competing brands offer, but 2900? From a brand that can't even be expected to deliver perfect quality at this price level? Totally unreasonable!

The R & D argument maybe valid for the Belew model, but is kinda lame if applied to the Dragonfly model, which is only a slight deviation from the original design.
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« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2009, 10:56:12 AM »
Ps, u said it: why pay that amount, that is crazy by itself, with the big doubt of getting a lemon?
The chances are quite high indeed, recently we've read too many

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« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2009, 11:54:55 AM »
Terry said - in the Codename Dragonfly thread, I think - that the Fly and Dragonfly would be priced the same, even though increases in both were inevitable. This appears to be the case in the US, where both base models are available for about $3300. I notice that the single cut is a LOT less - why is that? (Such prices are still not affordable to me personally, but c'est la vie.)

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« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2009, 11:55:10 AM »
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Once a company sells quite a few units, production gets dialed in, AND there's an upward sales trend, prices come down.


An increase in sales would not lower the price. That would be idiotic. In tough times, the cash buyer is king. Make a lowball offer and hold out. Or, buy a used one using the same technique.
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« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2009, 12:07:22 PM »
And also, non-US buyers are concerned by the lack of support. I had to learn the job myself, as nobody here offers assistance.
I'm happy of my mojo now that it works, but I was so close to sell it, when I had the 2 faulty springs. And, traveling back in time, I'd not have bought it.

I also hope that the flaws percentage will decrease on new Flys and Dragonflys. Because it's not acceptable that with 3k euros you got such lemons!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2009, 12:27:38 PM »
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Originally posted by sybersitizen

...I notice that the single cut is a LOT less - why is that? (Such prices are still not affordable to me personally, but c'est la vie.)


That one is kind of easy to answer: labor. Making a dual-horned guitar (especially of the stylized shapes of both the Fly and Dragonfly) require more hours of carving than a guitar with a single horn. It's the reason a Martin D-35 costs more than a Martin D-28 -not because it's necessarily better but because it's more labor intensive to make.

Actually, the price of the Fly, Dragonfly, and Mojo Singlecut/PM60 seem somewhat reasonable to me after watching videos of the labor involved in baking the guitar. Maybe they would cost less if Parker weren't based in places where the cost of living is so darn high!

The prices of Parkers are also comparable to other guitars I considered at the time I got mine (Paul Reed Smith Customs, Music Man Axis, Rickenbacker, etc...).

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« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2009, 12:29:56 PM »
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Originally posted by wkcchampion

I also hope that the flaws percentage will decrease on new Flys and Dragonflys. Because it's not acceptable that with 3k euros you got such lemons!!!!!!!!




I agree!

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« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2009, 02:02:16 PM »
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Originally posted by jpleong
Maybe they would cost less if Parker weren't based in places where the cost of living is so darn high!


You know, JP, that's the first time I can remember anyone making that point.  It's well taken.  If Parker was making Fly's in Joplin, Missouri (my home town and one of the cheapest places in America to live, relative to the quality of life - i.e., moderate standard of living, low cost of living), were that the case, I have no doubt that Parkers would be cheaper - or at least, more profitable.

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