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Offline Paul Marossy

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« on: April 10, 2010, 10:15:13 AM »
Your opinions on this short survey would be greatly appreciated:


1. What is your current favorite guitar effect pedal?

2. When looking for a distortion or overdrive pedal, what is the result you would expect to get from it?

3. If an overdrive/distortion pedal was made to your specifications, what would it do?

4. How would you describe the ultimate distortion/overdrive tone?

5. When you think of the ultimate overdrive or distortion, what object comes to mind?

6. Is there a word, phrase or image that would represents the best or ultimate overdrive or distortion tone?


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« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2010, 12:22:32 PM »
1 - none!!!! My fav pedal is: MAster volume to 10 :D
2 - again none. The problem is that tehse transistor based device lack in one little thing named DYNAMICS.... so always go for tube saturation (preamp for hi gain, power amp for crunch)!. Overdrives may only be good for boosting - but I'd rather get a valve based pedal like Blackstar HT Boost.
3 - N/A
4 - It depends on the music and song. My tastes go for Vox crunch for blues and pop, Marshall 1959/2203 for rock crunch and Dual Rectifier for hi gain (but I don't play this music)
5 - The Mesa boogie Dual Rectifier! Or the Marshall JCM800 2203 with vertical inputs.
6- Dynamics and organicity. In one word: tubes!

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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2010, 05:38:45 PM »
1. Boss GT-8. Within that, delay set as Mod delay.
2. Smooth breakup, drive without "static"
3. Warm overdrive without fizz - esp as a note fades
4. Same as 3
5. Marshall TSL
6. Heavy

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« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2010, 08:52:40 PM »
1. Although I've owned a few, I'm not too fond of pedals and floor controllers these days. Lately I prefer to have a small amp with just a handful of onboard effects.

2-3. Not much interested in that.

4-6. The wording of the questions seems to imply that there is one ideal overdrive/distortion sound. Seems to me that different situations require variable distortion that ranges all the way from 'Imperceptible' to 'Extremely Nasty'. ;)



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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2010, 09:08:59 PM »
I appreciate the fishing expedition, Paul. The forum has been uninspiring the last couple months. I miss the clever banter of old. This topic is a good one and deserves revisiting.

I think you will remember a similar pedal thread awhile back. If anyone wants more, do a search.

I agree With Sybercitizen on all counts.

Back before I knew anything, I bought one of those Digitech RP 80 multi effects pedals. It was entertaining for about 4 and 1/2 minutes.

Out of 80 effects, it almost had one or two you wanted to use until you got tired of the godaweful tone and one dimensional cheap sounding effect--whichever it was.

In short, it sucked.

Because I am insecure and always fearful that I am missing something, I went on a search for a real overdrive pedal.

I ended up with a Blackstone Mofset Overdrive pedal.

http://forums.parkerguitars.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9942&SearchTerms=blackstone

(nice looking clone you made, Paul.)

It is fun to play with from time to time. The tone doesn't suck. I have no idea what to compare it to because, basically, I still have no idea what I am doing.

Therefore, I cannot be much use for any pedal recommendation.

Most of the time I play using 3 components. The Fly, a chord, and a single ended ptp wired class A tube amp with few knobs. I also practice a lot with a cheap tiny solid state modeler amp with cheesy but occasionally useful in board effects.

I keep it  stupid simple. I am happy and less dangerous that way.


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« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2010, 10:58:13 PM »
Short?!
1. OD/Distortion

2. Who knows for sure[?] Generally an amp like tone, fizz-less or able to dial it out, transparent, EQ adjustments, decent overall gain range, true bypass, no tone suck, different drive options (for flavor) ie sym/asym via toggle (or something), good sustain, some sort of adjustable compression, etc?

3. Same as 2?

4. Probably a raw, transparent, not to compressed amp tone for rhythm. Lead could be more compressed, maybe with a little mid bump.

5. Object? Like the sun [:o)] If you mean a pedal or amp, I'm not really sure. If I worked in a huge music store, and tried everything under the sun for the last 50 years, (Not!) then I would have a better idea. But I probably haven't tried 10% of the stuff I read about at those other forums.

6. Organic?

Alright, I'm spent. No more, brain hurts.
Ok, that's it


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« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2010, 11:08:24 PM »
I like a clean fender amp with pedals in front for my tone.
To that end I have a Visual Sound Jekyll & Hyde followed by a BBE Green Screamer.
With two settings on the J & H and the Green Screamer I can get any combination of gain from slight crunch to
super saturation. It sounds organic to me without any of that digital fuzz or high end sizzle.
Smooth and brown is how I like it to sound. I also run a volume pedal after my distortion pedals and before
my delays and modulation.
I have a Pod X3 live also which is fun for recording or trying different models when I need to go direct to the board,
but I'm most satisfied when I can use my pedal board. There are better pedals out there I'm sure, but I've used the
Visual Sound stuff for years and I like the gear and the company.

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« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2010, 11:56:24 PM »
I can't really answer any question specifically, but I really wish there was a way to have multiple "presets" on a single pedal instead of an on/off.  Put four or five separate iterations of the same circuit in one pedal and stomp switches to select the individual settings.  Now that would be tres cool.
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« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2010, 06:54:54 AM »
I have been using the same setup for a few years...
A vintage RAT into a (now probably vintage) Orange color Fulldrive Fulltone II.
I use them in many configs... Fulldrive on, Rat off. Both on. Etc.
I set the Rat at a lower output lever than the fulldrive.

Does this help to answer you questions... I was never good at essay tests.

All goes into a fairly clean all tube amp.

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« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2010, 08:18:31 AM »
Sorry to not follow your format. I guess my likes are not that focused.

For most "conventional" effects, I like Mad Professor. Several outstanding distortion pedals. Sky Blue.

In its own category, ZVex has some outrageous effects that are not just novelties, though you will hardly be using them on more than a very few original compositions.

"Machine" distorts the middle of the sound wave, whereas virtually all others square off the peaks. It can be used in combo with those others to bring the guitar out front of the sound wall.

http://media1.zvex.com/machine.mov
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk5POcGAUjY&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb643KAtd1U&feature=fvw

"Lo-Fi Loop Junky" keeps bringing me back to work it into whatever. An up-to-20-second loop that sounds like an old 45 with adjustable amounts of disk warp and frequency loss. (Think opening measures of "Wish You Were Here.")

http://media1.zvex.com/lofi.mov
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AqPK-HYeRs

The thing with ZVex pedals is that they are widely tunable on a number of parameters with the result that 90% of the possible settings are goddawful and most of the good ones are so original that it takes some presence of mind to realize that you've gone from screech to  yowza. Their "Fuzz Factory" is a good case in point: Using NOS germanium components, it is a higher-quality iteration of the Fuzz Face that gives you control of three parameters that are fixed on Fuzz Face, i.e. gate, compression, and stability. It takes some time to find the gold in with all the rubble, though. Take a look see:

http://media1.zvex.com/fuzzfactory.mov
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVceBkgsDME
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joHFfLfyzb4&feature=fvw
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« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2010, 11:29:06 AM »
90% of the time I use my amps on 10 or nearly on 10 with an Alex's Attenuator to control the volume. I uses copies of traditional fuzz pedals, copy treble booster, a clean boost and a tube screamer copy all for particular songs or sound types.
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« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2010, 12:04:32 PM »
quote:
Originally posted by Paul Marossy

1. What is your current favorite guitar effect pedal?

My Tonehunter modded MXR ZW-44

quote:
Originally posted by Paul Marossy

2. When looking for a distortion or overdrive pedal, what is the result you would expect to get from it?

I would say: Overdrive and/or distortion :) Sometimes I like more modern sounding pedals with a lot of punch, sometimes it's all about light overdrive.

quote:
Originally posted by Paul Marossy

3. If an overdrive/distortion pedal was made to your specifications, what would it do?
If it were to be the only one I would use from then it would have three buttons: 1. An Overdrive with a lot of grit and mids, like my modded ZW, 2. A heavy distortion "channel", sounding like a soldano or diezel. 3. Something I could use as a boost or light od, TS like.

quote:
Originally posted by Paul Marossy

4. How would you describe the ultimate distortion/overdrive tone?
There are many. I like the tone of the beginning of "spawn again" by Silverchair.


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« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2010, 09:05:57 PM »
Thanks guys, I appreciate the input. Keep 'em coming!

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« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2010, 02:06:43 AM »
1. None at all most of the time. Coloring the tone with my Boss GT-8 I find myself using a basic booster, the Tube Screamer model for fattening things up and the Metal Zone model for going to extremes. Not very much in between, no big fan of fuzz pedals either.

2. Clarity, transparency, sensitivity to volume pot and fingers and warm yet clearly defined tone.

3. Almost no hard clipping distortion, more like a tube booster tailored to my tonal likes (whatever they may be, not really sure).

4. Dynamic, fat, growly, punchy, don't-know-y.

5. Saturated tubes with very mild compression and break-up controllable with the volume pot.

6. Not really as for me it always depends on song or mood. But you'd never go wrong with dynamic and fat.

Looking forward to that PM-special OD pedal, Paul... [:P]

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« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2010, 09:49:19 AM »
quote:
Originally posted by Nefarius
 But you'd never go wrong with dynamic [...]


That's what Bellman thought when he invented the dynamic programming and searched for a word that always has a positive connotation :) So as a sequence analysis enthusiast I'm totally with you...

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