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Offline rollingthunder

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« on: December 06, 2010, 08:35:21 AM »
Does anyone have a good source for this? I've found a few, but figured I'd ask folks.

I've been working with this one:
http://www.jazzguitar.be/walking_bass_guitar.html


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« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2010, 07:37:35 PM »
I've been studying Ted Greene's Jazz progressions from this site:

http://www.tedgreene.com/teaching/default.asp

It's a bit like drinking from a fire-hose while herding cats [:)]
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« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2010, 09:29:38 PM »
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Originally posted by mojotron

I've been studying Ted Greene's Jazz progressions from this site:

http://www.tedgreene.com/teaching/default.asp

It's a bit like drinking from a fire-hose while herding cats [:)]



That's a site I haven't run across before, some good info there.

You liken it to herding cats, eh? How do you avoid cat fights when herding cats? [:D]

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« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2010, 12:17:06 AM »
quote:
Originally posted by Paul Marossy

quote:
Originally posted by mojotron

I've been studying Ted Greene's Jazz progressions from this site:

http://www.tedgreene.com/teaching/default.asp

It's a bit like drinking from a fire-hose while herding cats [:)]



That's a site I haven't run across before, some good info there.

You liken it to herding cats, eh? How do you avoid cat fights when herding cats? [:D]
...

Well, there are fewer cats the more I practice...

I'm working on this one right now:
http://www.tedgreene.com/images/lessons/blues/BluesInG_TedGreene.pdf

One of his former students, Tim Lerch, has these YouTube videos of those exercises:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLsNXbHtY8c
And
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udigHL7VN8Y

That's some good stuff.

Talking about walking bass lines and comping - Tim Lerch plays these Ted Green exercises as well:
http://www.tedgreene.com/images/lessons/jazz/TedGreene_WalkingBassJumpbackBlues_Fsharp_1989-10-09.pdf#_1989-10-09.pdf

with this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUCBIyN_cIk

That's where I'm going next sometime around Christmas I'm guessin.

That Ted Greene stuff is dense, but if 10% sinks in a little - I'm way ahead.
 

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« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2010, 08:23:36 AM »
I'm slowly working my way through Ted Greene's "Chord Chemistry" and watching the videos on his site...Very heavy book but it has changed the way I think about comping and made me a much better accompanist.
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« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2010, 09:02:26 AM »
I've had the Chord Chemistry book since I was in HS. It too is packed away somewhere in the basement...sigh. I have too much good stuff sitting in boxes, and it's about time I got back into all this. Thanks for the pointers! (and the reminder)


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« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2010, 09:30:24 AM »
On Ted Greene's stuff, I have some of his books, and I think the stuff on his WWW site with the explanations from his former students (along with the books) are a much better way to go. His books really needed to be about 5 times longer to really explain the harmonic stuff he's presenting. Too bad he passed away at a relatively young age - I think he had a lot of people that really cared a lot for him and he had a lot more to offer to the world of music.

For example, in TG's Single Note Soloing books, the scope is smaller and a bit more focused and it's more approachable than Chord Chemistry - although his Chord Chemistry book a gold mine if you can take some of the material, noodle on it and roll it into your own playing/writing.
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« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2010, 01:10:12 PM »
I wouldn't be able to handle Chord Chemistry if I wasn't able to take the lessons and apply them on a gig...
I too have owned a copy for years and never found a use for it until I began working in a duo with just a female singer. We rehearse on Monday and play on Tues.and Wed. evenings in a local hotel lounge playing standards and pop songs from the 70s to the 90s that we have mangled into
"instant lounge classics".
I'm working on improving my improvisation skills harmonically as on the gig I really don't solo but I do take a chorus every now and then but just twist the chords into a new interpretation of the song before returning to the actual changes for the singer. Chord Chemistry has, in the last year or so, upped my game massively!
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