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Offline Umphreak

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« on: January 23, 2012, 01:15:30 PM »
I bought a Fly Deluxe a few months ago and have been loving playing it. I have a Crate VC2110 (15 W) tube amp with a 2 x 12 extension cab that I use with my band. While I can EQ some decent sounds out of this (I know it is cheap but I like it), there just isn't enough headroom (my drummer doesn't like when I mic through the PA because one of the PA speakers is right behind him and says it 'freaks him out' to hear me from 2 sources...).

So while I really enjoy this amp, I'm looking for something with a little more headroom so I can get usable clean and grit sounds. I have a few pedals on my board now (OD, Fuzz, wah, volume, chorus, delay) and I always thought that I'd prefer the analog route when it comes to amps but as I'm contemplating a new amp, I'm starting to wonder if something like a Line 6 pod pedalboard (the newer HD ones) would be worth scrapping my amp and pedals for (and just going through the PA). My main concern would be having a sterile sound lacking in picking dynamics.

So is there anyone who has had success going the more digital route or should I just find a new amp with higher clean headroom?

Thanks in advance!
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« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2012, 03:37:19 PM »
I think you can get there with the POD but there is a bit of a curve. I use an X3Live but the end of my chain is a Tiny Terror, not the PA. It would seem your drummer is in for more "freaking out" if you guys play out much. But maybe I'm misunderstanding. Could you not just move your crate where he doesn't hear that? Drummers! That's why after going through SEVEN of them in my last band I have been rockin' a machine for most of this band's life. :)

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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2012, 05:39:52 PM »
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Originally posted by Umphreak

I bought a Fly Deluxe a few months ago and have been loving playing it. I have a Crate VC2110 (15 W) tube amp with a 2 x 12 extension cab that I use with my band. While I can EQ some decent sounds out of this (I know it is cheap but I like it), there just isn't enough headroom (my drummer doesn't like when I mic through the PA because one of the PA speakers is right behind him and says it 'freaks him out' to hear me from 2 sources...).

So while I really enjoy this amp, I'm looking for something with a little more headroom so I can get usable clean and grit sounds. I have a few pedals on my board now (OD, Fuzz, wah, volume, chorus, delay) and I always thought that I'd prefer the analog route when it comes to amps but as I'm contemplating a new amp, I'm starting to wonder if something like a Line 6 pod pedalboard (the newer HD ones) would be worth scrapping my amp and pedals for (and just going through the PA). My main concern would be having a sterile sound lacking in picking dynamics.

So is there anyone who has had success going the more digital route or should I just find a new amp with higher clean headroom?

Thanks in advance!

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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2012, 05:50:07 PM »
if I had the spare $$, I'd almost certainly go the axe fx route.

I'm using Rocktron stuff right now, along with a johnson j-station.  (yah, but all solid state, and IMO they both sound great.)

Never had much love for the line 6 stuff, always sounded a little "sterile" to my ears.

If I was going tubes, I'd probably look at the new mesa's, bogners, and engle amps.

Anyway, there's a pretty long thread in this section where people describe their rig.
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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2012, 06:58:18 PM »
What's your price range? I'd recommend going with a Fender Twin or a Deluxe of some sort. Take your pedal board and go play amps at a guitar shop is best.
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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2012, 12:18:56 AM »
Hey, thanks for the responses! Yeah, Ax FX is not quite in my budget! I'm looking to stay in the $600 or so range (unless I could find a Mark IV for about a grand or so). Haha, and I like the idea of replacing the drummer with one who witches less!
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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2012, 02:52:21 AM »
A Boss GT-10 would be well within that range and for the price you get a good collection of pretty nice amp and cab models and almost every effect you could think of. It's no Axe FX when it comes to modelling detail but I'd take it over Line 6 stuff any day. And with some time and tweaking you'll get great sounds. If you decide to get a Mark IV later you can simply remove the amp modelling from your patches and use it as a pure FX box.

I have used the the GT-6 and GT-8 for years and the latter is still my only effects unit. Also it's hard to beat for those occasions when bringing a big loud amp is not really an option and a modeller is more than enough. Plus having one little box going directly into the desk without any setup hassle as a backup for more complicated amp setups can be a life saver too.

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« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2012, 10:33:42 AM »
Umphreak, Nef has a great suggestion. In your budget range, I'd also suggest the Digitech RP1000.  The modeling can be turned off with a single button push, the effects are very good, it has an external stompbox loop to bring in your favorite pedals, and it also has a 20 second looper. It's worth checking out.

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« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2012, 12:20:25 PM »
I would suggest trying a Vox AC-30. Clean, and warm with dirt if you dig into the strings. If you want super clean sounds, then I suggest something like a Fender Deluxe Reverb.

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« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2012, 01:06:06 PM »
In the floor box category, I agree with Nef on the Boss. If you like that sound.   Sorry Casey, I think Digitech sounds worse than Line 6.  Any day.  (But I'll admit to not having tried the RP1000).

For about a grand, you can get a used Standard Axe FX.  It's still miles above anything out there except the II.

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« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2012, 04:42:39 PM »
Hello Umphreak, nice to hear you're enjoying your Parker so much. In my opinion, you have to choose whether you want to go full-digital or stay in the analog department. In the first case, I'd recommend to choose an unit because of its amp simulators, not because of its effects (you can still use most of your pedals before or after it). In this case I'd recommend the Line6 stuff, especially the new HD generation. Fractal Axe Fx is a different thing, but a different budget as well. The Boss GT10, from my personal point of view, has better effects but its amp sims aren't as versatile as the POD ones.

If you choose to stay analog, then I wouldn't recommend a multi-effect processor. I think getting a new amp or head would be the priority, in this case. Given the fact that the choice here is so broad, and I don't know which kind of tone you want to achieve. But in that price range, a H&K Tubemeister can do great things. I've tried it recently, and I liked it more than I expected. Definitely worth trying!

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« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2012, 09:31:46 PM »
I'd give serious consideration to a hybrid amp. Advantage is that you can get a decent warm tube sound, and keep that warmth and tone when turning down to small room levels. The suggestions of Vox AC (for example) are great, except that you are limited to venues that can support the volume you generate. OTOH, something like my Marshall AVT delivers a nice tube tone at venues ranging from large ballrooms to my bedroom.
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« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2012, 06:55:08 AM »
Actually, in your budget, you might want to check out the new Fender offerings (Mustang) or the oder, but still sounding good, Cybertwin.  Good hybrid solution.

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« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2012, 11:29:28 AM »
Thanks everyone for your inputs. I think since I already have all my effects (which I like) i'll probably just go the route of getting an amp with more headroom. I guess i'm just afraid to go the digital route, although like some of you said, maybe a hybrid might be in my future!
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« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2012, 06:09:49 PM »
Thanks for all of your inputs everyone! I ended up getting a Traynor YSR-1 custom reverb. It has tube reverb and tube tremolo, sweet! Its really loud and offers some nice headroom. It takes my pedals very well as well. So looks like i'll leave the digital age for another time.
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