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Offline Bill

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Lead sheets for live performance.
« on: September 11, 2012, 06:46:25 AM »
Our little band uses them. We have our notebooks on a stand. We print them out in as big a font as possible. The lyrics and chords on the internet are usually wrong and we spend a lot of time fixing them, which helps us learn the songs. Eventually, there are a lot of songs we dont need them for anymore and thats more fun.

But we're getting old and never were that good anyway so we use them lame or not.

Recently I saw Elton John perform with Leon Russel on a TV special. They each had a display slightly bigger than an ipad propped up in front of them on piano. The lead sheets were big enough to read, almost fitting the whole song on the page with minimum scrolling and somehow scrolled automatically.

I want one! What is that ? I heard there was an app. similar to that for the ipad with a pedal for scrolling but its of limited use because the screen size is so small.

Has anyone used the ipad for this during live performances ?

I know its lame but we sometimes add 4 new songs a week during our weekly practice session and its just too much for us to memorize it all for the little bit of time we perform. Plus we suck and dont care what we look like anyway.

Any computer display lead sheet suggestions out there ?

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« Last Edit: September 11, 2012, 06:54:14 AM by Bill »
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« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2012, 09:25:08 AM »
I just use either an Encore or .pdf of an Encore sheet on a ThinkPad notebook.

I know it's a little 'old school' but it works.

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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2012, 11:14:41 AM »
I see people using ipads...
 

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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2012, 08:53:18 PM »
At church I use a laptop turned on its side, with a foot pedal that changes the pages (e.g. musicreader.com and look at PC accessories). Tap the pedal to go to the next page - our scores can run 25 pages for a Sunday morning. Works nicely.
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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2012, 10:54:07 PM »
I've used an iPad.  Works well.  There's bluetooth accessories for page turning for that but I don't have one.  I'm a tree killer.  I use paper :(
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« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2012, 08:42:13 AM »
At church I use a laptop turned on its side, with a foot pedal that changes the pages (e.g. musicreader.com and look at PC accessories). Tap the pedal to go to the next page - our scores can run 25 pages for a Sunday morning. Works nicely.

Too bad we don't have that kind of arrangement at the church I play at.  ???

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« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2012, 09:51:53 AM »
Just got a 10" HD screen Android tablet and I'm very much looking forward to abusing it as my digital cheat sheet in the future.

A very nice option for keyboarders of course, they have to suffer through so much paper, especially during rehearsals and experiments. A piano playing friend of mine is known for having sheets softly falling to the ground all around him like snow on Christmas. ;)

There's also the high tech version for geek keyboarders using apps that understand MIDI signals and automagically set the scroll position or turn pages. I'm pretty sure that (or something similar) is what Jordan Rudess is using. Ultimate nerd factor so of course I love it.

I would like to think I don't need sheets, yet still I always prepare and use them. It must be that soothing effect of knowing you could take a peek in case of an emergency. Then again I usually don't have a problem remembering lyrics (except those I wrote myself, strangely enough) or what I have to play but sometimes I enjoy a certain situation or section in a song so much that I need my sheets to remind myself where in the song I got lost and where to continue. Structure sheets with the first few words of each section are ideal for the way my brain is wired.

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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2012, 11:13:08 AM »
We have over 500 songs in our 'book' and I just can't memorize them all.

The ones we play most often are fine, but those that you pull out every few moths need some help. And the new ones aren't memorized at all for a while.

I thought about a tablet, but I really like the keyboard not covering up part of the screen and ready without an additional gesture to get it to appear. On the other hand, the tablet keyboard is much easier to see in a dark club.

I used to carry a tree-ware notebook. I went computer when we got to about 400 songs and should have done it sooner. Turning pages is slow, the book was heavy, and the paper is fragile (I invested a lot in those reinforcements for the ring binder). The computer is much easier.

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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2012, 02:48:35 PM »
Notes, what type computer and what program ?

I have the 15 inch Macbook Pro and my songs are on Word for Mac and to get a font size of 14, you just cant get much of the tabulature viewable at the same time.

One thing I dont like about macs is the display is always way narrower than the screen.

Is there a different word processor program or lap top that you use ?
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« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2012, 10:05:12 AM »
I use ThinkPad computers. They are bulletproof (I just retired one bought in 2002 because the hinge is wearing out), flat black, and have no Apple, Dell or other lighted logo to attract attention on stage.

Since 2002 I've had two problems with my ThinkPads. One the hard drive started making noise (that was after 6 or so years of bouncing on a keyboard stand) and a year or so later, the CMOS battery died ($4.95 at Radio Shack). Each time I went to the spare (we carry 3 computers but only need 2 - all data is on all 3). Back in business the next day.

This was on the computer I recently retired; an IBM R-30.

I use the on-stage computers for nothing but on-stage work. No office programs, no Internet access, no games, and even no bloatware (I order them without all the extras).  I do one-nighters so life is very hard for these computers - bouncing and roasting in the mini-van by day, then freezing in overly air conditioned stages while they bounce on a keyboard stand all night.

I also use the computers to play my backing tracks. I create my backing tracks at home, and them mix them to a high bitrate mp3 file.

I play the mp3s with Windows Media player, I use Encore for sheet music, and I use Windows Word Pad for lyrics. For words I use Verdana font (easy to read on screen), bold, and a big as I can.

By using the Windows programs instead of additional ones (with the exception of Encore), there is less danger of a crash - and since 2002 I have never had a crash on stage.

Full details are here:
http://www.nortonmusic.com/backing_tracks.html

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« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2012, 01:42:51 PM »
Thanks So MUCH !
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« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2012, 10:12:34 AM »
There's a bunch of page turning apps for iPad, I think a few even "listen" to your performance and scroll appropriately.  Haven't tried them, so can't vouch for reliability, etc.
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