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Offline supersecretjim

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« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2006, 11:16:18 AM »
The AVT is a piece of junk. Sorry to be so blunt. It sounds decent by itself at lower volumes, but you will get lost playing with others. Back in 2000 I got back into guitar after a ten year hiatus, & decided to sell my ADA tube set up for something new. I walked into my local guitar center & was duped into buying a Marshall AVT 150 head. I thought, wow, Im getting a Marshall 150 wat head for this great price... I plugged it into my new (at the time) genz g-flex cab & it sounded pretty good.

I didnt play in a band then, but over the course of about a month or so I realised that this amp does not sound good turned up! Even moderately loud. I like to play relatively loud. Not gig loud, but loud enough to push an amp. Even just practicing at home. This amp completely falls apart once it gets turned up. The more you turn the volume up, the more brittle & thin it sounds. When you turn a tube amp up, the bass gets fuller & rounder & blooms. Id have to assume that the one your cosidering getting at only 50 watts will be even worse.

I was lucky enough to have a good friend at guitar center who gave me full credit (after 2 months)for buying this POS & put it toward a used mesa dual rectifier.

Im not trying to put down your choice, but simply lead you in a better direction, based on my own personal experience with this amp series.

By amp switch, the seller is probably talking about the foot switch.

There are plenty of GOOD 1x12 combos out there. Pass on this one. Wait for a good used tube combo. Or buy a modeller ($200-300 used)& a Crate power block ($200 brand new)& stereo cab $100 -300) I just bought a power block to screw around with a while ago & hook up to my Pod xt live & its pretty darn cool. More than enough power to play any gig if you wanted. & the power block straight sounds great too. Its got only medium gain, but a tube screamer reissue solved that...

Just some other options to further confuse you!



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« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2006, 06:03:18 PM »
Is the Peavey Valve King 50 Watt any good? Or should I just spend the extra 100$ on the Peavey XXX 40 Wat Combo
 

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Offline supersecretjim

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« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2006, 10:47:03 PM »
I have not personally tried it, but my friends in Vegas did. We all have pretty similar tastes when it comes to amps & we love the modified marshall 80s metal sound, kind of like what youre after. They didnt care for it at all. Thats all I can say.

But it may be a good starter tube amp for you. But Id still pop for the XXX either the 40 or 60 watt 1x12.

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« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2006, 12:26:08 PM »
Lately Ive been thinking inbetween 2 amps, a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe and a Traynor custom valve 40. Which one do yall think is a better deal. I can get both for around 500$.
 

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« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2006, 06:45:46 PM »
what about the line 6 stuff?
 

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Offline loumt123

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« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2006, 12:39:07 PM »
i own both tube amps and line 6 stuff, and you just cant beat real tube sounds. go for the hot rod deluxe
 

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« Reply #21 on: March 05, 2006, 08:06:58 PM »
I have to disagree about any Fender amps for metal tones.  They simply will not cut it.  I would honestly look in the used market for something like a Boogie, but you might still find them out of your reach.  I would wait a while and get something that you won't be dissapointed with.  I know that in the studio we used a Line 6 Flextone II and it was really an incredible amp, and I have found them used for around $399.  Tubes are always better, but you can get some really great tones out of Line 6 gear.  Steven Wilson of Porcupine Tree uses that gear excusively and I have never heard anyone say he had bad tone.


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Offline loumt123

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« Reply #22 on: March 05, 2006, 08:11:43 PM »
In the nitefly vid marc seal uses a fender hot rodd deluxe with boss processor and theres no tone left untouched.
 

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« Reply #23 on: March 05, 2006, 08:21:04 PM »
And I agree that he had fantastic tone, but not one suitable for what he is looking for.


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Offline loumt123

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« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2006, 02:38:55 PM »
ehh just sounded like the hot rodd nailed everytone really nicely. by the way, where is he going to find a good line 6 for 500? i have a spider 2...and the distorted tones are down right disgusting sounding..i reccomend against that amp.
 

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« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2006, 04:11:37 PM »
Ive found myself leaning towards a Line 6 or a Traynour, but have had a really hard time deciding. I practice on a Line 6 at my guitar lessons, and the amount of differnt sounds it has are really amazing, but I think the one I practice on is the 1500$ model. Ive read alot of reviews at harmony central on Traynours and they all seem to be really good.
 

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« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2006, 05:11:46 PM »
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...where is he going to find a good line 6 for 500?


My local shop had a Flextone II for $399.  I would have bought it if I hadn't gone to all rack gear.  I have used that amp in the studio and a few times in a live situation and it was really good.


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« Reply #27 on: March 06, 2006, 06:33:58 PM »
If I could get a Flex Tone 2 that I knew worked I would probably get it. My local shops usually has the same price on stuff as most internet stores.
 

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« Reply #28 on: March 06, 2006, 07:08:56 PM »
It was used FYI.  But I do like that amp, and like I said before, I have great admiration for Steven Wilson's work and his tone has always been impeccable.


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Offline loumt123

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« Reply #29 on: March 06, 2006, 07:32:13 PM »
haven't played through a flextone...have my line 6 spider two which i wouldnt reccomend over the hot rod, and ive played a vetta 2, which was quite frankly unbelievable...but it was as unbelievably confusing as it was impressive.