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Offline Mr303

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Playability p-38 vs pm-20
« on: January 09, 2015, 09:55:43 AM »
Since laying hands on Parkers is difficult even around here (Denver Co.) could anyone give me some advice about these two models and how they play/feel compared to my current Pdf105.

Neckwise that is not so much sound but also weight feel, anything really.

I want another Parker now without piezos to haul around since my Gibby is for sale.

Thanks!
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Re: Playability p-38 vs pm-20
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2015, 10:40:59 AM »
If you can get your hands on a PM20 grab it. You won't be disappointed.

Top notch build quality, better than average stock hardware and electronics (easily upgradeable if needed). Beautifully sculpted body, lightweight, and wonderfully comfortable to play.

I haven't played the PM10 version (stop tail instead of string thru) but those here who have one will likely say much the same thing about it.
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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2015, 03:29:53 PM »
Hey Barry
Thanks,
I hope if the 20 is a Parker at heart it would hold true to light weight playability, but not sure since it looks much like a Les Paul, so my back feels better about that. 
I guess Part of playing Parkers is in the hunt for them.
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« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2015, 02:01:47 PM »
Having owned and played both, I think the things to weigh are:

The P38 is very strat-like, in configuration and feel both.  Except I never played a strat that had piezo or that weighed 5 lbs.

Not all P38's have the piezo, but none of the PM20's do.

You can usually find a couple or three of both on EBay at any given time.  I'm in Denver, too, and the only Parker dealer that I'm aware of is GC.  Who doesn't actually keep them in stock.  Real rare to see a used one anywhere.

I love my PM20 (Bubinga) so much that I bought another one (flame) to play at the office (I'm the boss).

I sold my P38 and bought 2 Hornets.  Just my $0.02
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Re: Playability p-38 vs pm-20
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2015, 04:50:25 PM »
The PM20 bubinga is now at home. My home!

Really was a no brainier since I can sell a less than spectacular Gibson and pocket $150 to boot!


Thanks for the help.

Great guitars great forum.
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Re: Playability p-38 vs pm-20
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2015, 08:43:13 AM »
I have also a bubinga guit. it's a Ibanez Ag95. Great look and very special sound...round, warm,
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Re: Playability p-38 vs pm-20
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2015, 09:29:48 AM »
The PM20 bubinga is now at home. My home!

Really was a no brainier since I can sell a less than spectacular Gibson and pocket $150 to boot!...

Glad to hear it, congrats! 
If it didn't already come with one, I would also suggest looking around for the matching Parker gig bag. Like the guitar they are very well made and thickly padded, with lots of carrying/hanging options. It's also very light so it doesn't make carrying the PM20 guitar a chore.

Real nice combo, and you get to spend some of your "profits" ;D
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« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2015, 05:53:23 PM »
Hi Barry
It came with a hardcase. Theres nothing like a hardcase for protection even with the added weight. 
The tone pot failed (fixed it) and the frets are a bit more worn than I first thought but nothing is amiss and it plays like a dream.  It's heavy, thats my only real complaint. Beautiful finish fit and tone. It was a work horse for the previous owner it would appear.
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« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2015, 12:05:21 PM »
... It's heavy, thats my only real complaint...
Really?
At about 7 lbs she's one of the lightest electric guitars I own. The only thing which beats it is the Danelectro '56 U2
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« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2015, 04:51:21 PM »
Hey Barry
Now I'm spoiled so yeah the PM20 at 7.4 lbs does feel heavy versus the PDF105 at 5.2lbs.

It's a very small complaint but my shoulder feels the difference after a couple hours.
« Last Edit: February 05, 2015, 12:55:27 PM by Mr303 »
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« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2015, 08:12:38 PM »
Oh, I see why you say that now.
When you compare the PM20 to a typical Les Paul it's a bag o' feathers!
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« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2015, 08:15:53 AM »
My guitars don't need no weight watchers program!

PM20 = 7.4 lbs
PDF 105 = 5.2

Cheers!
« Last Edit: February 05, 2015, 12:54:54 PM by Mr303 »
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