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Offline TinMachine

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Hardtail Parker fly. Why? And is it really that rare?
« on: February 09, 2016, 11:12:26 PM »
So I've been seeing a few hardtail Flys on evil Bay as of late. If you had your choice,  why would you choose this over a tremolo bridge?  And second,  are these rare somehow?
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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2016, 03:37:25 AM »
Hello,
yes, they are quite rare, but not impossible to find.

Which one is better? It's up to taste. The guitar is the same, just a different bridge.
I love the Fly tremolo, personally.
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« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2016, 06:27:52 AM »
Hello,
yes, they are quite rare, but not impossible to find.

Which one is better? It's up to taste. The guitar is the same, just a different bridge.
I love the Fly tremolo, personally.

The main attraction of a non tremolo Fly is it weighs less than a standard Fly.
I want to say about 14-16 ounces less but not certain.
Taxguydave has a Fly without a trem and it's extremely light.
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« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2016, 07:32:12 AM »
Hello,
yes, they are quite rare, but not impossible to find.

Which one is better? It's up to taste. The guitar is the same, just a different bridge.
I love the Fly tremolo, personally.

The main attraction of a non tremolo Fly is it weighs less than a standard Fly.
I want to say about 14-16 ounces less but not certain.
Taxguydave has a Fly without a trem and it's extremely light.

Even lighter? Wow! The Deluxe is already a feather, compared to other vintage guitars I have. I can't imagine playing one even lighter!
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My Fly bridge setup guide:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-bURNmuDq2-a0VPd3lPZldwVmc/view?usp=sharing

Pearl White 2008 Fly Mojo (Fralin PUs)
"Eldy" / Majik Blue 1995 Fly Deluxe (Gen1 PUs)
Various vintage and modern Marshall/Vox/Laney amps
Rockman + other rack stuff
Boss GT-100

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« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2016, 10:42:00 AM »
I've had several hardtails - lighter, more sustain, change to heavier strings without buying additional springs, alternate tunings without adjusting trem, etc.

They are great! I prefer Hardtail guitars myself.
 

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« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2016, 11:29:34 AM »
I've had several hardtails - lighter, more sustain, change to heavier strings without buying additional springs, alternate tunings without adjusting trem, etc.

They are great! I prefer Hardtail guitars myself.

Yeah! What he said......string change, alternate tuning, looking for one when I get more cash.
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« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2016, 12:54:28 PM »
Note that a vibrato Fly can be quickly converted to a fixed (blocked) bridge, giving most of the advantages described above, and switched back and forth anytime. Kinda hard to do that with one that was born with a fixed bridge.
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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2016, 10:42:38 PM »
Hmm.... But nobody picked up the o E on evil Bay for a grand. Interesting

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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2016, 06:14:29 PM »
There is almost always a hardtail or 2 floating about for 1k.
I had a white 93 recently but had to turn it around.

Guitars aren't selling like they did just a for years ago.

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« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2016, 07:41:37 PM »
A buddy of mine wants to sell his hard tail fly. $xxxx. It's got some dings. I'm thinking about it,  but even $xxxx seems like a lot. What do you guys think? Buy it and if I don't like it just flip it on eBay?
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« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2016, 11:21:56 PM »
A buddy of mine wants to sell his hard tail fly. $650. It's got some dings. I'm thinking about it,  but even $650 seems like a lot. What do you guys think? Buy it and if I don't like it just flip it on eBay?

Refined or pre?
  As long as dings aren't severe and everything works that seems like a decent price. The guitar market does seem to be slowing down.

If you don't buy it PM me. I don't use a tremolo much so it could be nice to have a lighter guitar.
Good luck!
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« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2016, 08:54:13 AM »
Its the pre-refined.  The dings aren't awful,  but the ones along the side of the fretboard are annoying.  Could use a shazrock going over,  but then I'd have too much into it.

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« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2016, 05:13:54 PM »
Its the pre-refined.  The dings aren't awful,  but the ones along the side of the fretboard are annoying.  Could use a shazrock going over,  but then I'd have too much into it.

If it's a player working mans guitar some character is expected.
Sounds like unless the fretboard is a real deal breaker....I'd drop him a lower price, pointing out the fretboard, then fix it enough to be playable and forsake cosmetics, I'd think a pre-refined should make it more desirable too.
 But that's just me, I own a beat up '43 Epiphone I'd never "fix" except to maintain it, I like its character.
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« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2016, 02:11:37 PM »
OK guys,  I talked him into letting me have it for $xxxx.  I'm bringing this baby home tonight.  I hate posting pictures,  but I'll do my best folks. Thanks for the encouragement.  I think I'll be just fine.
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« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2016, 02:42:22 PM »
And as an added bonus,  this was in service for about a year at the famous Bad Animals studio,  during which Heart and Alice in Chains were recording their records. Very cool