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Offline ParkerPlayer

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« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2018, 04:44:10 PM »
I got nothin!, no reply, no snarky remark from an underling, nuttin honey....cue the crickets.......dang it!

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Offline bembamboo

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« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2018, 06:22:38 PM »
the other most elegant guitar on the planet, Gibson is filing for bankruptcy of some kind. High quality mass production is a problem.  the light simplicity and resonance of an SG or a Fly as a platform for all the best hardware is a great way to play a good guitar.  but for the high prices they ask for, the durability has to be there. imo

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« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2018, 10:31:08 PM »
 sad to hear the news :'(

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« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2018, 12:01:14 PM »
Anyone wanna take bets on when the Parker website is going to change 2018 to 2019?  I'm gonna go ahead and bet that it will take them until mid January for someone to realize "Oh crap we need to change it AGAIN"

Seriously though, what happened since "We'll be back in 2016" until now?
The sale of the company fell through, looks like?

And just commenting on above, the startup costs would absolutely be enormous.
IIRC they sold all of their equipment, all the ovens and the epoxy curing stuff...
They even sold off all of the overstock parts, like bridges, etc.
Probably sold everything that wasn't nailed down.

I kinda want to buy a used one, it's very tempting, but the realist in me tells me it's not a good idea to buy a guitar that has many known issues in terms of things not working / falling apart after years and years of playing it, especially at a time when it's getting harder and harder to get official parts for it.

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Offline Big Swifty

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« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2018, 05:22:58 PM »
Not to mention the actual intellectual...whatever it's called, the loss of the people who knew how it all worked.

Really, IF the Parker brand re-emerges, it will bear little relation to the original ideas/concepts/ethos.

It may as well be a new start-up guitar company.

So sure it'll be interesting to see what comes next, but you know...meh.

They've blown it.

Big time.

B.S.

EDIT: "intellectual capital" That's it!..ah coffee, where would we be without thou...
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Offline Patzag

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« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2018, 06:24:45 PM »
Anyone wanna take bets on when the Parker website is going to change 2018 to 2019?  I'm gonna go ahead and bet that it will take them until mid January for someone to realize "Oh crap we need to change it AGAIN"

Seriously though, what happened since "We'll be back in 2016" until now?
The sale of the company fell through, looks like?

And just commenting on above, the startup costs would absolutely be enormous.
IIRC they sold all of their equipment, all the ovens and the epoxy curing stuff...
They even sold off all of the overstock parts, like bridges, etc.
Probably sold everything that wasn't nailed down.

I kinda want to buy a used one, it's very tempting, but the realist in me tells me it's not a good idea to buy a guitar that has many known issues in terms of things not working / falling apart after years and years of playing it, especially at a time when it's getting harder and harder to get official parts for it.

My Parkers are from 1994 and 1996.  They are as beautiful as on the day they were made.  A little scuffing on the aluminum bridge is the most wear you'll see.  The frets are as shiny as the day they came out of the factory.  And if the ribbon on one of them got cut by stupid (mine) handling, a few soldered wires was all it took to get the sound flowing again.

These guitars will outlast me.

If you find a good condition used PRE REFINED Parker, jump in.  They are the best guitars ever.  every day that goes by and every guitar I try tells this to me again and again.
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« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2018, 06:34:20 PM »
+1 Patzag's comment
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« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2018, 07:03:03 PM »
I was also going to tell the new guy how my '01 Deluxe (bought used on eBay in 2009) has held up perfectly with not a single failure of anything. But I'm an at-home player and I don't subject any of my gear to the rigors of 'real life out there'.

I do know that Dave Martone, who is at the extreme opposite end of the spectrum, did actually wear out his first Fly after several years, then bought another one.

I don't know what sort of treatment ParkerSrg expects to give his stuff.
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« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2018, 03:05:37 AM »
I doubt they’ll come back though it would be great to think they could, even with a new product range and manufacturing technique.
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« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2018, 11:56:34 AM »
If I had the $$ I would totally buy the brand and relaunch, though I'd need to do more market research and costing.  It'd be great to get someone like VJ and his team involved.  Donations accepted!

There's a few things that I have figured out along the way which I could replicate, a few things I'd do a little different (e.g. not painting the nut sides), and a few things I'd outsource. 

I can think of some cool new options (eg 12 string? 24.5" scale length?), body shapes, and a business model that is similar to some of today's boutique builders.
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« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2018, 12:44:15 PM »
Believe me: I thought the same exact thing!!! I mentioned it to Ken recently that, if I had the capital, I’d be all over that! :)

The concept of the Fly is still good! Even if it went to a boutique company model, I still think it’d be a viable business, but, as others mentioned: it’d be a complete rebuild of both tooling and training. Ouch!!!
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« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2018, 04:44:10 PM »
The concept of the Fly is still good! Even if it went to a boutique company model, I still think it’d be a viable business, but, as others mentioned: it’d be a complete rebuild of both tooling and training. Ouch!!!

Yes, It’s now just a concept, no assets and limited IP. A loyal but but very small customer base. A saturated market. It would require not just retooling and training but a complete reboot. As it stands, the company is worth close to $1.

Maybe some of the more entrepreneurial types here could offer the current owners $1 for the brand, with a small and time-capped royalty from future sales back to them as an incentive as well, subject to certain success metrics of course.

If I knew anything about building guitars, I’d definitely think seriously about it.

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« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2018, 07:52:56 PM »
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« Reply #28 on: September 29, 2018, 05:49:36 AM »
I just wrote my friend Billy and told him it would be great if he and VJ re-released the Parker guitars. I know it's difficult but I also know that Ken would be proud of the work they would do. It would even be likely that Ken would like to help with some crazy ideas. I think it would work like Boutique guitars because the PArker guitar always was. It was a guitar that could not fight against the prices of "normal" guitars because Parker is not a normal guitar. They are great guitars for musicians who know how to love them and use their special sound. Not for guitarists who want to turn it into a Fender or a Gibson. Korg and USM did not understand it. Although USM also made excellent guitars, they changed so much the original design and this displeased many old lovers of the brand. It is true that there are others who loved the new designs. A balance between the original design and new ideas could be really interesting.

I have currently found a Parker Fly Hardtail that was modified and looks like a guitar released that year. The current color and the modifications are totally new but the design is the same as always and looked like a new and sexy guitar. If I imagine Billy's ideas included in it, I can only relate it to success. You just have to see Billy's work in other PArkers. Amazing

http://www.sevenstring.org/threads/ngd-modernized-1993-parker-fly-deluxe-hardtail-w-bkp.323529/

With the great ideas and experience of Billy I dream of a brilliant future for PArker.

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« Reply #29 on: September 29, 2018, 09:20:39 AM »

I have currently found a Parker Fly Hardtail that was modified and looks like a guitar released that year. The current color and the modifications are totally new but the design is the same as always and looked like a new and sexy guitar. If I imagine Billy's ideas included in it, I can only relate it to success. You just have to see Billy's work in other PArkers. Amazing

http://www.sevenstring.org/threads/ngd-modernized-1993-parker-fly-deluxe-hardtail-w-bkp.323529/


That is one seriously good looking guitar, great work!

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