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Offline axejock

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Re: New Parker Owner
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2018, 05:57:26 PM »
I started playing guitar in about 1962 and played in a good local "rock band" for about 4 years...actually made money doing it which allowed me to buy my first "real" guitar, a Fender Tele! I then had the pleasure of being drafted into the Viet Nam war, survived, and went on to graduate from college and execute a 40 year career. During that career, I had a simple Yamaha acoustic guitar that I played to at least keep some ability alive. After I retired, I rekindled my guitar playing and quickly found myself with a heck of a case of GAS! But I didn't just buy the most popular or flashy models available, but rather looked for high quality instruments that offered outstanding performance and workmanship and, especially, unique features...I love having something that not everybody else has. This Parker (though not a part of my GAS problem....I actually bought it to help a friend out) probably fits that bill better than any other guitar that I have bought. Once I buy these things, I rarely sell them as they all have something that I feel is special. I even have a custom built, 12 string, solid body electric guitar with dual humbuckers on it. Not a run-of-the-mill guitar, but fascinating to me.
So, once I add an instrument to my herd, it definitely stays there, meaning this Parker will have a great home!! And I DO play all of my guitars from time to time just to handle them and enjoy their features.
By the way, has anybody seen the new Boss guitar that has been released that has so many electronics on board, that the lower strings can make sounds that simulate a drum beat while the melody is played on the upper strings? I saw a video on it....very difficult to play, but features that bogle the mind!

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« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2018, 11:41:01 AM »
Notes quote: On PDF guitars, they are made overseas, someone please correct me if I'm wrong about these things (1) the frets aren't hardened stainless steel (2) the fingerboard isn't ebony (3) the body wood is different resulting in a heavier guitar (4) the hardware isn't as good as the USA guitars.

My PDF’s have rosewood finger boards, Spertzle locking machine heads(lower end) and are heavier than the Fly’s but still lighter than run-o-the-mill guitars, with jumbo stainless steel frets.
 Neck radius is rounder than a “shred neck” and not as comfortable as a Fly profile. My 70 is painted very well and the 105 has a beautiful sunburst maple burl top, the PM20 Pro has one of the nicest black fading into the mahogany finish jobs I have ever seen. I’ve played custom DF series and you couldn’t tell any quality difference in the finish but the set-up and overall playability was noticeably improved by the hand tweaking by an expert luthier.
I haven’t seen or used any PDF’s or PM series that were noticeably lower end fit or finish wise and I’d be happy to own any model including a Nitefly.

Harsh reality is I’ll never be able to quit my day job and be a musician.....oh wait ...I realized that many moons ago.
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« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2018, 03:30:53 PM »
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Harsh reality is I’ll never be able to quit my day job and be a musician.....oh wait ...I realized that many moons ago.
Cheers!
Harsh reality is that if I can no longer be a musician, I'm probably unemployable. But I have no intention of quitting my night job. :)

I'm lucky to have been born in a generation where one could make a living doing music and nothing but music. I think it's more difficult now.

When I grew up every hotel bar from a Holiday Inn hotel on up, every singles bar, every adults bar, and every popular bar had a live show in it, probably 90% bands. And they all had bands 6 or 7 nights per week. I even played in a strip club when I was 18 and the dancers disrobed to live music (great gig for a hormone overloaded 18 year old.)

There were no "open mic nights", no sports bars, anything bigger than a dozen bar stool tavern didn't have a TV in it, no DJs, and anything with a juke box in it was not a cool place to hang out. Of course, most of us were cover bands, but learning to be a "tribute band" to dozens and dozens of successful bands was good schooling in it's own way. How did Plas Johnson play that riff? How did Hal Blaine play that drum fill? and so on.

And because the technology wasn't here the bands were 4 to 7 piece. I got to travel to just about every state east of the Rockies, eventually as a warm up band for major headliners, made money, had delightful mutually exciting relations with many girls, and was treated as a peer by the likes of Rick Derringer, Junior Walker, Eric Burdon, The Funk Brothers, Tom Scott, and so many more. A dream life.

Today I'm an "almost made it" but at least I'm not a "has been" :D

There are plenty of better guitarists than me on this forum as it's my seventh instrument. But playing sax in a lot of very good bands I had a lot of good guitar teachers, so when I decided to take lead up seriously I took to it quickly and got adequate fast. But it's my 7th instrument, and I have to learn new songs for the duo, make the backing tracks, and also keep the Band-in-a-Box aftermarket business running, I don't have as much time as I'd like to practice, so I'll probably be decent but not great for a long time, and I'm OK with that. My main voice is my sax and wind synth anyway.

But (back on topic) I've played enough guitars to know the Parkers I own are great guitars. They sound great and are easier to play than the others I've tried. And if the guitar is easy to play, comfortable, well balanced, and ergonomic, most people can play better on them. And that's what we all want to do, play better.

Well, it's Saturday, so I have to go to work  (play).

Notes

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« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2018, 02:41:15 AM »
Nice work Notes, great story.

Technology....it'll be the end of us.

I love it, we all love it, and rely on it.

But the price we pay as a society...as a community (in that real life out there)..all (not so) slowly being insidiously undermined, usurped by corporation, company, start-up, gaming, social media, on-line community etc etc, all driven by profit and growth and which we have gladly, inadvertently, invited into every aspect of life where it thrives like your neighbours punk of a creeper plant-thing growing over the fence, finding it's way into all the cracks, slowly tearing the whole thing apart...

We will be nought but rubble.

Sand.

And not the stuff at the beach, no no no!

But in a large glass display in the foyer of corporate HQ; a playground for child-kings to build temporary castles....

As technology sells the power of the individual, so too does society weaken.

Resit comrades, resist!!

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« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2018, 06:49:17 AM »
Dan Hicks and his Hot Licks play it well....er say it well?

Technology has been an issue for a long time :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAOFsuUofcc


I met Dan a couple times over the years of going to his shows.
 He always remembered me even if it was a couple years later and the entire band was fun to talk to without
pretense or ego.


That man could play guitar!
 He is well known for “I scare myself” but Canned Music is a favorite since I abuse innocent guitars.

Beware the drummer

Cheers!
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« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2018, 03:36:43 PM »
Wow! I fully agree that technology is taking over the world, including music production, and that it threatens an awfully lot of our traditions and older realities. I'm just glad that the bulk of my life was lived before this technology revolution, and I got to actually do things with my own skills and brain capacity! But I really don't think the idea of playing an instrument will die because of technology. It is now being used to eliminate the traditional rock/blues/jazz bands, but the venues that appreciate live concerts are still there and will want to see something more than a "black box" sitting on stage pumping out any sound you can feed it. Also, many of the computerized music generators and electronic driven sound effects are really cool! And nothing will replace the satisfaction of owning and learning to play a fine instrument like a Parker guitar....at least not in my remaining years!
By the way, just to show my ignorance, what is a "synth"?

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« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2018, 06:04:15 PM »
Oh, and to further illustrate my ignorance Notes, what is "Band in a box"? Terminology and technology have apparently left me behind worse than I realized!!

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« Reply #22 on: May 21, 2018, 10:54:23 AM »
Oh, and to further illustrate my ignorance Notes, what is "Band in a box"? Terminology and technology have apparently left me behind worse than I realized!!
Band-in-a-Box is a computer program for Windows and Mac computers. It is primarily an auto-accompaniment app with a lot of extra features.

Basically what it does is turn your computer into something similar to those 'arranger keyboards' that will play drums, bass, and other instruments in the background. There are thousands of different styles available, a few hundred of which I wrote and sell as aftermarket add-ons.

There are notable differences, BiaB can play up to 5 instruments, and since you enter the chords with your computer keyboard (spelling them out like Gm7 or F6, etc.) it knows what chord is coming next, and in what context of the song that chord occupies. This allows the style writer (like myself) to put up to 400 different musical patterns from 1 to 8 beats each and have them play back in musically appropriate instances. It is also possible to write multiple patterns to happen in the same musical instance and assign probability numbers so that some show up often, and some infrequently.

The output is about like a decent band in most cases (depending on the song) but never as good as a very good or great band.

I bought it to practice saxophone with back in the late 1980s. Although I play 7 instruments, sax is my primary and when trying new improvisation ideas out, you don't know how they will sound without a band playing the chords. Band-in-a-Box can cover over 90% of popular, jazz, and country songs well, in any key, and in any tempo.

In the early 1990s PG Music (the creators of BiaB) created an app that allowed end-users like myself to write custom styles for BiaB. I gave it a try, wrote about 20 of them that I though were not like the ones in BiaB and something I'd like to practice with. I gave copies to my friends, and they said they liked them better than the styles that came with BiaB (aren't friends great) so I took out an ad in the now extinct Electronics Musician magazine, and found myself in business.

I've sold styles to musicians in over 100 countries, and to my surprise here in the USA and overseas I've had instances where I've met other musicians and when I tell them my name they say "THE Bob  Norton, the Band-in-a-Box guy?" At first a bit embarrassing, not knowing how to react, but now it makes me feel good.

I use BiaB for practice, and as the app grew in features and quality I also use it often to help write the backing tracks for my duo. If there is an appropriate style I'll start it in BiaB, then export to a DAW where I can add song-specific riffs, and do other things that turn the very good output of BiaB into something excellent. The parts I use I can play myself, but BiaB saves time, especially for comp parts that lurk in the background and fill up a song. If there is no appropriate style in BiaB, I do my backing tracks from scratch, playing the drum part into a MIDI sequencer first, then bass, then add the other comp parts.

The gigging work in Florida has always been seasonal. From around Halloween through Easter there are plenty of gigs, as the population swells with winter residents and tourists getting away from the frozen north. Then it gets very slow in the summer and from mid-August through Mid-October I'm lucky to gig two days a week.

Before I got into the BiaB aftermarket business I spent the summers either "up north" or gigging on Cruise Ships, preferring the Cruise Ships. But I really, really love summers in Florida.

My little aftermarket business grew to the point where it makes enough money for me to enjoy the summers in Florida without having to travel for work. I love to travel, but for a duo to schlep our gear around the country and keep it safe isn't much fun. And the routine of the cruise ships got old after a few years. Every week the same thing again and again and again. Even the menu is the same week after week (If it's Monday, it's ham sandwiches for lunch - can't get one on Tuesday though because they are only on the Monday menu). The gigging is good, but the confinement and routine leaves you wanting more.

So starting around Easter, I start writing new styles. It's time consuming, but it's music and I get to use some of the arranging chops I learned in school, I get to play the music life into a DAW and import the snippets into the BiaB StyleMaker app, and I've learned a lot about how different genres of music work that I haven't had a lot of previous experience in like Salsa, Soca, Reggae, Musette, etc.

This is probably TMI. If you want to see more about Band-in-a-Box, go to pgmusic.com (I don't sell BiaB, just add on products at nortonmusic.com).

Please excuse typos, my keyboard has been skipping letters lately and all of a sudden I have to run with no time to proofread

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« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2018, 10:58:21 PM »
Notes: I really enjoy reading of your activities as a "working musician". You have obviously gained a great deal of talent and knowledge of the music scene, and in my mind, you chose the right route by forming a duo and playing selected venues as opposed to trying to rise to "superstar status" and burning out at a young age. Also your Music in a box business sounds like a great past time when your not performing. Sounds like a win-win deal.
In a change of subject, there is a discussion on Parker cases in other sections. I have to say that the case that came with my DF724 is beautiful, fits the guitar like a glove, and is VERY sturdy and as nice as any Fender or Gibson case that I have. My PRS guitar, as expensive as it was, came with just a gig-bag (a nice one, but still a gig bag). I called PRS to order a hard case for the guitar and found out that it is built like a tank, is beautiful, but must weigh 1000 pounds (lol). It is the heaviest case that I have and it is actually a huge overkill in my mind. Cases in my mind should fit well, be well built, but should be fairly light....few of them will ever have to withstand being run over by a truck.
Another question, my DF734 sounds great, but I have been playing it through my small, practice amp and have found that when switching from just the magnetic pups to the piezos, I sense very little tonal difference. I haven't yet explored all adjustment capabilities, but I expected the piezos to give more of an acoustic sound and am surprised by the sound they provide. Can any one comment on this and maybe give me a few hints on really how to evaluate this? The 3 way switch is working properly and the 5 way switch seems right also. I have a large, high powered amp also...should I try it on that amp?  Thanks.

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« Reply #24 on: May 23, 2018, 12:22:47 AM »
Another question, my DF734 sounds great, but I have been playing it through my small, practice amp and have found that when switching from just the magnetic pups to the piezos, I sense very little tonal difference. I haven't yet explored all adjustment capabilities, but I expected the piezos to give more of an acoustic sound and am surprised by the sound they provide. Can any one comment on this and maybe give me a few hints on really how to evaluate this? The 3 way switch is working properly and the 5 way switch seems right also. I have a large, high powered amp also...should I try it on that amp?  Thanks.

Hi there, piezo pups work best when running straight into a PA not an amp. If you use your Y cable and run the mags line to the amp as normal, and the other line to the PA or keyboard amp, you will hear a massive difference when you switch between the two types.
I use a Line 6 Firehawk and bypass the amp modelling for the piezo by running the Piezo through the FX return at the end of the signal chain. I can then control my pickup switching with my feet by programming my patches accordingly. No hands!
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« Reply #25 on: May 23, 2018, 02:51:55 PM »
I called PRS to order a hard case for the guitar and found out that it is built like a tank, is beautiful, but must weigh 1000 pounds (lol). It is the heaviest case that I have and it is actually a huge overkill in my mind. Cases in my mind should fit well, be well built, but should be fairly light....few of them will ever have to withstand being run over by a truck.

Ha ha.  Yes, I totally agree about the cases.  My PRS Custom 22 came with a hard case which is ridiculously heavy! 
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« Reply #26 on: May 24, 2018, 08:43:05 AM »
<...snip...> I expected the piezos to give more of an acoustic sound and am surprised by the sound they provide. <...>

I too was not overwhelmed by the acoustic sound of the piezos. They sound way to thin for my tastes and have none of the resonance of a flat-top acoustic. I have an Acoustic sim on my Digitech RP355 pedal that sounds much more acoustic.

But there is one thing I really, really like about the piezos. If I blend the piezos with the mag pickups, they add some sparkle and twang to the tone. It's unlike anything straight mags or straight piezos can provide. IMHO this alone is worth the price of admission.

But to be honest, I don't think I've given the piezos their best chance. I've never used the Y cable, but I run from the Parker to the RP355 amp-sim/fx pedal straight to the PA mixer.

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« Reply #27 on: May 24, 2018, 10:32:40 AM »
Another question, my DF734 sounds great, but I have been playing it through my small, practice amp and have found that when switching from just the magnetic pups to the piezos, I sense very little tonal difference. I haven't yet explored all adjustment capabilities, but I expected the piezos to give more of an acoustic sound and am surprised by the sound they provide. Can any one comment on this and maybe give me a few hints on really how to evaluate this? The 3 way switch is working properly and the 5 way switch seems right also. I have a large, high powered amp also...should I try it on that amp?  Thanks.

Hi there, piezo pups work best when running straight into a PA not an amp. If you use your Y cable and run the mags line to the amp as normal, and the other line to the PA or keyboard amp, you will hear a massive difference when you switch between the two types.
I use a Line 6 Firehawk and bypass the amp modelling for the piezo by running the Piezo through the FX return at the end of the signal chain. I can then control my pickup switching with my feet by programming my patches accordingly. No hands!

Agree, the piezos sound best through a pa or an amp made for acoustic instruments/keyboards.  There's also some direct boxes that can help improve the piezo sound into the pa.  I also find the piezos are useful when blended into the mags for a little extra brightness on a regular guitar amp.
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« Reply #28 on: May 24, 2018, 11:41:53 AM »
Have a look/listen to what Pete Townshend does with his Piezo-modded guitars. Its a little of both, but he really gets that "mixed in" sound that Notes is talking about. But when it comes time for acoustic he is ALWAYS just switching to a big boxy acoustic.

Doing Coffee Shop gigs, I was able to get my nitefly V4 to do a good acoustic sound using a preamp and running it through the split cable so that the piezo went straight to one channel of my Roland BA-330. I was NOT able to do this with my Roland JC-120! I was able to EQ it with the onboard knobs of the BA-330 pretty well, but putting a separate EQ unit in between is really what it needs. I used the Rockett Pedals Allan Holdsworth Overdrive for a lot of nice tweaks, and it did some cool acoustic stuff-- made it more convincing, but that wasn't really the EQ pedal I needed.

I use an array of synth patches that are really convincing for that now, but I don't think you have to go down that road.
I initially looked at what Reeves Gabrels was doing with his Nitefly and it was ALWAYS sending the piezo to the mixing board.
Since I rarely get a mixing board, its up to me to find that EQ pedal that works!

I forget who, hopefully they will chime in< recommended this:

https://reverb.com/p/fishman-aura-spectrum-di?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIhI3p5-Se2wIVFcNkCh3AWAHfEAQYAiABEgLDpPD_BwE&hfid=12351941

which looks perfect but I have never tried it. Take your guitar to a big box store and make them plug you in!

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« Reply #29 on: May 24, 2018, 12:20:03 PM »

I forget who, hopefully they will chime in< recommended this:

https://reverb.com/p/fishman-aura-spectrum-di?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIhI3p5-Se2wIVFcNkCh3AWAHfEAQYAiABEgLDpPD_BwE&hfid=12351941

which looks perfect but I have never tried it. Take your guitar to a big box store and make them plug you in!

I use that with my Deluxe piezos and I like the result - a much more convincing acoustic sound.

I also sometimes use a blend of piezos mixed with a normal mag/amp configuration to add a bit of 'shimmer'.
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