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Re: Sadly, I think Parker is just going to slowly fade away
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2019, 09:43:55 AM »
Thanks, Brooman. When we did the 12-string Fly mod, we modeled a bunch of components in our testing and 3D-printed them to make sure they matched the original; as I mentioned, for some components like the bridge, they really do need to be made from the right material, but your average step-stop can be plastic. It's possible to print in sturdier filaments than the plastic shown here, but this was just a prototype. I'm trying to create a workflow so we never have to worry about where to buy Fly parts.
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Re: Sadly, I think Parker is just going to slowly fade away
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2019, 09:46:28 AM »
Let me know when/if I can get a battery door for a pre-refined Fly!
Working on that now! Will keep you (and everyone posted).
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Re: Sadly, I think Parker is just going to slowly fade away
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2019, 09:27:47 AM »
Sadly, I think Parker is just going to slowly fade away.  :(


From what I've seen the last few years, I have to agree. At this point it appears that it is just a pipe dream to resurrect the brand and I think the public at large has lost interest in Parker as well.

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Re: Sadly, I think Parker is just going to slowly fade away
« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2019, 11:26:18 AM »
Except for those darn collectors!

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Re: Sadly, I think Parker is just going to slowly fade away
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2019, 12:56:55 PM »
Pardon the philosophical question (especially if the answers seem obvious), but I’m curious: what would be the biggest drawbacks, in your opinion, to Parker not opening up again?

A. Lack of availability for purchasing new guitars of the existing lineup of models
B. Lack of a Parker Custom Shop for any experimental orders you want to place
C. Lack of development of new Parker instruments models 
D. Lack of support for repairs, parts, etc.
E. Lack of community through this forum
F General knowledge that of you wanted a new Parker you could get one, even if you have no plans to get one
G. Something else?

I know how I’d rank these, but I’m curious what others have to say.
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Re: Sadly, I think Parker is just going to slowly fade away
« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2019, 02:22:01 PM »
D. Lack of support for repairs, parts, etc.

Really only that for me. It was already a problem even while the operation was technically still in business.

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G. Something else?

Upward-creeping prices on the used market is a definite consequence. That's either a problem or a reason to celebrate depending on whether you're buying or selling.
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Re: Sadly, I think Parker is just going to slowly fade away
« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2019, 06:28:36 PM »
If - IF! - If the original pre-refined paradigm was to be resurrected, I would definitely be in the market for a custom job.
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Re: Sadly, I think Parker is just going to slowly fade away
« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2019, 08:10:26 PM »
For me... in order of priority...


D. Lack of support for repairs, parts, etc.
A. Lack of availability for purchasing new guitars of the existing lineup of models
B. Lack of a Parker Custom Shop for any experimental orders you want to place
G. Escalating used prices

I think the forum would continue for a long time, somewhere,  if not here.  I would miss it if it were gone.
 

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Re: Sadly, I think Parker is just going to slowly fade away
« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2019, 08:44:46 PM »
For me... in order of priority...
D. Lack of support for repairs, parts, etc.

Part of the reason why I ask is that my team and I have been modeling (or sourcing) every component of the Fly (pre-Refined and Refined); literally every last screw! The goal is to get to the point where we can either 3D print or machine every part (depending on what’s necessary to fabricate it), and, of course, I’m planning to make this resource (when we’re further along) available to all of us in some capacity (not sure how just yet).

We have a bunch of other projects going on in my lab right now, but we only have a little while longer to go on this “Fly Clone” project before I officially “announce” anything, but my hope is that this could, at least, help address the “where do I find parts” question beyond what’s available on eBay and Reverb. That concern is also at the top of my list if Parker Guitars never comes back; that’s why we started this project :)
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« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2019, 03:27:05 AM »
An amazing project VJ, I really hope you succeed!
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« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2019, 03:39:49 AM »
Thanks, Jamie! I appreciate that—I’ll keep you and everyone posted.
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Re: Sadly, I think Parker is just going to slowly fade away
« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2019, 05:47:02 PM »
For me, the problem is a lack of new guitars entering the used market. I am very happy with my deluxe and 722. I worry about what I would need to pay if my deluxe, that I bought a long time ago for under 900, failed. Having "new" guitars enter the used market keeps the price in an affordable range and availability good so I would have a selection.
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« Reply #27 on: February 15, 2019, 02:43:17 PM »
I feel like if somehow Parker was to start up making new guitars again, the product wouldn't be the same as the pre-refined version.  So many aficionados of the pre-refined Fly (myself included) realize there are plenty of opportunities for improvement, for example the ribbon cable should be redesigned.  Also, the mag pickups really should have the option of bypassing the active electronics.
Even if Ken Parker himself jumped back into producing Fly's, he would do away with the "poisonous" spray-on finish.  :)
So being that they "new" guitars would be different, I doubt they would make the existing ones less valuable.  Probably the older ones would become more valuable.
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Re: Sadly, I think Parker is just going to slowly fade away
« Reply #28 on: February 20, 2019, 08:33:10 PM »
Thanks. I wish you a lot of success, and if my Parker DF needs anything, you will be the first person I ask.

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