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Offline Notes_Norton

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I wonder why Parker keeps a web site up?
« on: June 01, 2019, 08:51:49 PM »
I wonder why Parker keeps a web site up when there hasn't been news for over a year.

They don't seem to have any plans to revive the line, nor is there any talk about someone else buying it.

But it takes money to keep a web site hosted. Where does the money come from?

Just curious.

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Re: I wonder why Parker keeps a web site up?
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2019, 01:31:37 AM »
But it takes money to keep a web site hosted. Where does the money come from?

There might be no cost at all to keep the site in its miserable state, depending on the details.

U.S. Music still lists Parker Guitars as one of their brands, so the Parker site data could be only a small part of a larger collection of multiple sites owned by U.S. Music and Jam Industries and hosted on the same servers. In that case the only ongoing cost would be continued renewal of the parkerguitars.com domain name, and that would only be a few dollars a year. It's also possible that the domain registration fee was already paid for several years into the future, meaning the cost is zero until such time as renewal is required.
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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2019, 01:15:56 PM »
It's also possible that the domain registration fee was already paid for several years into the future, meaning the cost is zero until such time as renewal is required.

That one sounds about right.
If so, one day it will just disappear with no warning.

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Re: I wonder why Parker keeps a web site up?
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2019, 02:25:58 PM »
If so, one day it will just disappear with no warning.

If it does disappear with no warning, my team and I are ready to resume business as usual at: http://fly.electricguitarinnovationlab.org
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Re: I wonder why Parker keeps a web site up?
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2019, 05:27:05 PM »
There's also an official Parker Guitars Facebook page and a Parker Guitars Yahoo group I set up in case it was ever needed:

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Parker-Guitars

Unfortunately, the vast expanse of data in this forum will not be replicated in those places.
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Re: I wonder why Parker keeps a web site up?
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2019, 07:46:09 PM »
Sounds logical. I've got two domain names, registration isn't expensive and if you have a server or web host for your other products, it doesn't hurt to leave it up.

Facebook pages don't matter to me. I don't do Facebook anymore. When I found out Zuckerberg and company tracked the habits, clicks, and read the texts of it's members, then used that data to spread fraudulent news (I don't minimize it by calling it fake news) to influence an election, I cleared my data and got out. I don't care if they were rigging it for the candidate I liked or the candidate I didn't like, using fraud to influence an election is not compatible with a democracy or what's left of it. It doesn't represent my personal values, and therefore I cannot support it. To let them sell my data for profit would be in my opinion aiding and abetting fraud to destroy democratic process. Remaining on FB means I approve of those tactics, and I definitely do not. Sorry for the rant.

vjmanzo, I've bookmarked your site - thanks!!!

Anyway, I'm glad I have two USA DFs and hope they last a long, long time. If they break, I might have to get an SG or something and mod it to my liking.

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« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2019, 08:46:04 PM »
Anyway, I'm glad I have two USA DFs and hope they last a long, long time. If they break, I might have to get an SG or something and mod it to my liking.

The good thing we have going for us is that our CF-reinforced guitars are pretty solid. I’ve given some thought to what could possibly go wrong with a Fly and, besides needing to replace a part for some odd reason, I think the failure points that are unusual/impossible for most repair places are 1) frets, 2) fretboards, and 3) truss rods (that would ultimately constitute a replacement fretboard and frets).

Does that sound about right? Sorry for kind of derailing this thread, Notes.
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« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2019, 09:09:22 PM »
We should probably find a good way to archive some of the more important info on here, but I haven't got the time. I know its probably pretty easy to do, though. Even to keep the pictures that still exist...

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« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2019, 11:15:10 PM »
Facebook pages don't matter to me. I don't do Facebook anymore.

I've never had a Facebook account and I'm sure I never will; I just know the company maintains an official Parker presence there.
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Re: I wonder why Parker keeps a web site up?
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2019, 05:31:48 PM »
Facebook pages don't matter to me. I don't do Facebook anymore.

I've never had a Facebook account and I'm sure I never will; I just know the company maintains an official Parker presence there.
I did. Some relatives convinced me to join to keep in touch. It's very impersonal, mostly it candid pictures of their activities, dinner, cats, and they were broadcasted to the world. Add to that telling the world of their accomplishments, which they should be proud of, but I don't agree that's the way to tell me. And I had about 100 friend requests from people I didn't know, and ignored them all. It's a weird place and due to their dishonest use of the data they sell, I will not go back. If my distant or close relatives want to tell me something, e-mail or text me directly.

But that's just me. I've always been a little unconventional.

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Re: I wonder why Parker keeps a web site up?
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2019, 07:38:12 AM »
Hello fellow Parker enthusiasts

I would bet that the Parker webpage hosting was paid in advance and when the hosting fees expire so will the site.

It would be interesting to find out who owns this site and possibly try to pay for the rights to the name/ownership of the forum to keep it going.

Facebook is a simple platform that USM can set an intern to for updates etc. 
I know I read somewhere that interns do maintain the FB page.
I trust nothing on FB and don’t have an active acct.  I find FB to be a complete waste of time and prefer to call friends and hear their voice rather than read the banter. 

Even though this forum isn’t as active as it once was the level of information and interaction between members makes it one of the most friendly and useful places on the web.  It is also the only site I regularly post to.  People make this site excellent and I hope it doesn’t ever go away.

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Re: I wonder why Parker keeps a web site up?
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2019, 10:08:06 AM »
Speaking of the parent company, it looks like the real parent company is a billion-dollar entity called DCC, which owns JAM Industries and US Music:

https://www.prosoundnetwork.com/business/dcc-acquires-jam-industries-in-new-partnership

Parker Guitars is just some tiny line item on some cubicle dweller's list of assets that need occasional attention, costing the company essentially nothing.

Interesting! I knew that JAM Industries owned USM, but I hadn't even heard of DCC. Reminds me of this clip: https://youtu.be/AJOVUF-HaDw?t=37 :)
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Re: I wonder why Parker keeps a web site up?
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2019, 10:08:15 AM »
I would bet that the Parker webpage hosting was paid in advance and when the hosting fees expire so will the site.

It would be interesting to find out who owns this site and possibly try to pay for the rights to the name/ownership of the forum to keep it going.

Info on that is easy to find. See below - it expires on March 14, 2021.

https://www.whois.com/whois/parkerguitars.com

Ownership of the domain name doesn't mean much. You could in fact register the name 'parker-guitars.com' (with a hyphen) right now for a few bucks. But even if you own the domain name, you can't keep the forum going unless you're also given the data and you arrange for a server on which to host it and the forum software.

A quick look at some other U.S. Music domain names like randallamplifiers.com suggests that many of them share server space somewhere. As long as the parent company pretends that the Parker name is active, there should be no danger of the forum disappearing just for reasons of domain name renewal.

Speaking of the parent company, it looks like the real parent company is a billion-dollar entity called DCC, which owns JAM Industries and US Music:

https://www.prosoundnetwork.com/business/dcc-acquires-jam-industries-in-new-partnership

Parker Guitars is just some tiny line item on some cubicle dweller's list of assets that need occasional attention, costing the company essentially nothing.
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