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Offline Binner

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« on: March 10, 2005, 09:03:14 AM »
I have sent this question to the local Parker dealer months ago, but haven't heard any response. So here goes...Floyd in a Fly, has it ever been contemplated/done. I would love to order a custom job with a Schaller Floyd. I am very happy with the current trem and peizos, but I miss the 80's metal strat guitars. Those just can't be found in the same quality that existed in the late 80's early 90's. Some companies still make some good ones but charge several thousand for them. I would much rather have a Fly built for the task. Anyone ever hear of such a thing?
'97 Fly Classic with Steve's Special/Air Norton
'05 Mojo Flame (Green) with SD Distortion/Jazz
'03 Parker 5-String (Natural) Duncan AJB-5s
'89 Hamer with Sustainiac
'95 Ovation Standard Elite (Green Burst)
'98 Ovation Balladeer (Red burst)
PRS Custom 24
Fender American Deluxe Strat
a bunch of Jacksons
a bunch of Charvels
a bunch of Peaveys (Vandenbergs)
Mesa RoadKing II
Mesa Mark IV Long Head
Mesa Stiletto Deuce II
Mesa F-30
Mesa 4x12
Peavey Triple X 2x12
Peavey 4x12 with two V30s and 2 G12T 75s
SWR Bass 750 with Mesa 4x10 and 1x15
Mesa Bass 400+
...and a bunch of other stuff

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« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2005, 12:18:12 PM »
Got the official word now..."No" on a Floyd in a Parker. I certainly hope this is not taken in the wrong way, but I guess custom shops are not what they used to be.
'97 Fly Classic with Steve's Special/Air Norton
'05 Mojo Flame (Green) with SD Distortion/Jazz
'03 Parker 5-String (Natural) Duncan AJB-5s
'89 Hamer with Sustainiac
'95 Ovation Standard Elite (Green Burst)
'98 Ovation Balladeer (Red burst)
PRS Custom 24
Fender American Deluxe Strat
a bunch of Jacksons
a bunch of Charvels
a bunch of Peaveys (Vandenbergs)
Mesa RoadKing II
Mesa Mark IV Long Head
Mesa Stiletto Deuce II
Mesa F-30
Mesa 4x12
Peavey Triple X 2x12
Peavey 4x12 with two V30s and 2 G12T 75s
SWR Bass 750 with Mesa 4x10 and 1x15
Mesa Bass 400+
...and a bunch of other stuff

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« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2005, 02:40:41 PM »
quote:
Originally posted by Binner

Got the official word now..."No" on a Floyd in a Parker. I certainly hope this is not taken in the wrong way, but I guess custom shops are not what they used to be.



Given the depth or lack thereof of a standard Deluxe Fly body, there is no conceivable way a Floyd would ever fit. You could do it on a Nitefly though...

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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2005, 11:41:14 AM »
It could be done, chop the string block and use a flat spring on the back side of it. Much like its current trem.
'97 Fly Classic with Steve's Special/Air Norton
'05 Mojo Flame (Green) with SD Distortion/Jazz
'03 Parker 5-String (Natural) Duncan AJB-5s
'89 Hamer with Sustainiac
'95 Ovation Standard Elite (Green Burst)
'98 Ovation Balladeer (Red burst)
PRS Custom 24
Fender American Deluxe Strat
a bunch of Jacksons
a bunch of Charvels
a bunch of Peaveys (Vandenbergs)
Mesa RoadKing II
Mesa Mark IV Long Head
Mesa Stiletto Deuce II
Mesa F-30
Mesa 4x12
Peavey Triple X 2x12
Peavey 4x12 with two V30s and 2 G12T 75s
SWR Bass 750 with Mesa 4x10 and 1x15
Mesa Bass 400+
...and a bunch of other stuff

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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2005, 12:34:47 AM »
Why in God's name would you want a Floyd Rose in a Parker????  Don't get me wrong, I have a lot of guitars with Roses and they are better than a lot of systems, but to me there is no contest that the Parker Tremolo system is the best, stays in tune great, 3 way operation, and a much more touch sensitive spring.  Just my opinion.

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« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2005, 10:51:57 AM »
I do like the Parker trem, its a very nice alternative for "traditional" trem, which aside from the spring and peizos, is exactly what it is. It does stay in tune much better than say a Fender trem, but it does not take the abuse of a Floyd and stay in tune as well as a Floyd. Just give the bar a few good yanks play an open G major, I dare ya'. My old Floyd equipped things will stay in tune with maybe a minor adjustment to the B or high E after five or six hours of heavy playing. Even heavy bending employed for leads will cause some tuning fun with a Parker. It would a nice option, but I fear taking a guitar of its construction to any luthier for a mod of that nature. I would trust the engineers at Parker or maybe NASA.
'97 Fly Classic with Steve's Special/Air Norton
'05 Mojo Flame (Green) with SD Distortion/Jazz
'03 Parker 5-String (Natural) Duncan AJB-5s
'89 Hamer with Sustainiac
'95 Ovation Standard Elite (Green Burst)
'98 Ovation Balladeer (Red burst)
PRS Custom 24
Fender American Deluxe Strat
a bunch of Jacksons
a bunch of Charvels
a bunch of Peaveys (Vandenbergs)
Mesa RoadKing II
Mesa Mark IV Long Head
Mesa Stiletto Deuce II
Mesa F-30
Mesa 4x12
Peavey Triple X 2x12
Peavey 4x12 with two V30s and 2 G12T 75s
SWR Bass 750 with Mesa 4x10 and 1x15
Mesa Bass 400+
...and a bunch of other stuff

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« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2005, 06:21:09 PM »
NASA couldn't handle it. :)
 

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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2005, 07:13:03 PM »
Well I have to disagree a little bit, I think if you do a setup on your Parker and really give your strings an excellent stretching when you put them on and set the trem correctly it should stay in tune just as well as a floyd, I personally haven't had any issues with it going out of tune while using the bar.  But hey everyone has different expereinces and not every guitar is exactly the same either.  Best of luck.

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« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2005, 08:16:10 AM »
I have been playing for 15 years, and actually worked as a pro guitar tech for a few of my early years. I usually do all my own wiring, pickup installs, and all other adjustments, including intonation. I just don't go as far as using a router when it comes to instruments (but I will use a Dremel). Routing is an art form I have not mastered. The Parker is unique in all areas above. Set up is about as complex as a Floyd equipped guitar, and very stable once completed. But nothing is as stable as a Floyd, it is unlikely that a more stable system will come along in the near future. Even a standard bridge goes out of tune a bit when bending a lot. I don't see that being unique to my guitar either, I have played most models that Parker makes. Fazio's in St. Louis actually stocks several on any given day. All models are consistantly good, but all will go out of tune a bit when beating them up. There is a reason Mr. Rose made a buisiness out of his bridge.  .....ahhhhh, as much as I love my Classic - if only Hamer hadn't been bought by Kamen, those were no compromise guitars prior to that.
'97 Fly Classic with Steve's Special/Air Norton
'05 Mojo Flame (Green) with SD Distortion/Jazz
'03 Parker 5-String (Natural) Duncan AJB-5s
'89 Hamer with Sustainiac
'95 Ovation Standard Elite (Green Burst)
'98 Ovation Balladeer (Red burst)
PRS Custom 24
Fender American Deluxe Strat
a bunch of Jacksons
a bunch of Charvels
a bunch of Peaveys (Vandenbergs)
Mesa RoadKing II
Mesa Mark IV Long Head
Mesa Stiletto Deuce II
Mesa F-30
Mesa 4x12
Peavey Triple X 2x12
Peavey 4x12 with two V30s and 2 G12T 75s
SWR Bass 750 with Mesa 4x10 and 1x15
Mesa Bass 400+
...and a bunch of other stuff

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« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2005, 09:01:00 AM »
....Your probably right John, it would be tough for NASA, they have lost a few too many probes to trust them with my guitars. I guess we ran out of post-WWII German scientists. Hehe
'97 Fly Classic with Steve's Special/Air Norton
'05 Mojo Flame (Green) with SD Distortion/Jazz
'03 Parker 5-String (Natural) Duncan AJB-5s
'89 Hamer with Sustainiac
'95 Ovation Standard Elite (Green Burst)
'98 Ovation Balladeer (Red burst)
PRS Custom 24
Fender American Deluxe Strat
a bunch of Jacksons
a bunch of Charvels
a bunch of Peaveys (Vandenbergs)
Mesa RoadKing II
Mesa Mark IV Long Head
Mesa Stiletto Deuce II
Mesa F-30
Mesa 4x12
Peavey Triple X 2x12
Peavey 4x12 with two V30s and 2 G12T 75s
SWR Bass 750 with Mesa 4x10 and 1x15
Mesa Bass 400+
...and a bunch of other stuff

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« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2005, 06:51:28 PM »
question!!!!!... my fly trem is a little plinky and poppy when I am using the trem even real subtle like...what is going on here??? I have the 0.009 guage spring in and it has 9's on it and it is set up well... what gives? i like the trem in fact...I love it...I just find that it pings a twings when I use the trem or when I "overbend" a string. I can see on the high e that it seems to be sliding too freely on the saddle/piezio... any help folks???? PLEASE!!!
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« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2005, 08:37:55 AM »
Sounds like an issue with the spring, I would pop the cover the back and take a look while doing a little trem action and see if the spring is seated correctly or if the spring has sprung.
'97 Fly Classic with Steve's Special/Air Norton
'05 Mojo Flame (Green) with SD Distortion/Jazz
'03 Parker 5-String (Natural) Duncan AJB-5s
'89 Hamer with Sustainiac
'95 Ovation Standard Elite (Green Burst)
'98 Ovation Balladeer (Red burst)
PRS Custom 24
Fender American Deluxe Strat
a bunch of Jacksons
a bunch of Charvels
a bunch of Peaveys (Vandenbergs)
Mesa RoadKing II
Mesa Mark IV Long Head
Mesa Stiletto Deuce II
Mesa F-30
Mesa 4x12
Peavey Triple X 2x12
Peavey 4x12 with two V30s and 2 G12T 75s
SWR Bass 750 with Mesa 4x10 and 1x15
Mesa Bass 400+
...and a bunch of other stuff