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Offline PeterMa

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« on: September 14, 2006, 08:47:56 PM »
I just picked up the Monster stereo cable and don't love it. Anyone know of a better cable?

Yes, I searched the forum and came up with bad links and not so good cables.  

I just want something superior to the piece of Poop that came with the guitar but has a similar design with an angled input as well as having part of the cable to be bonded together instead of splitting the entire cord.

Is that asking too much?

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« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2006, 10:17:53 PM »
Peter,

Actually, it is a lot to ask, believe it or not. Side-by-side shielded cable is a custom affair, and the number of applications is not that great. So a cable maker has a large up front expense for a not-so-great return. Alex has the best solution. And a stereo right-angle connector is another thing with limited audience potential. The Switchcraft plug that came on the original Fly is about as good as it gets. And it's not really all that good. If it were me, and heck, it is, the best solution is a stereo cable with a flexible boot on the back (think Whirlwind Leader plug cap/boot around a Switchcraft 297 stereo plug body) at the end that goes into your guitar (or both ends for that matter) using Belden 8412 or 8451 two conductor braided shield mic cable. Then to a breakout box that has a stereo jack to two mono jacks. From there, two standard mono cables. It is the most elegant solution, and you can even build a groundlift into the box for those pesky situations. Alex has suggested this same solution before, here.

My experience with Monster is that their stuff is aptly named - it's monstrous. If you want higher fi cable and gold ends, I am sure there are solutions. A Planet Waves molded stereo cord is very nice too. The breakout box is almost essential if you are serious about splitting the signal. The other alternative would be a stereo y cord - stereo female broken out into mono males, but then you are limited to the length of the Y. OR, a stereo Y breakout cable - a stereo female to two mone females.

I don't see another analog solution.

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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2006, 11:49:39 PM »
The best description of what I am looking for Simon, is the same Parker cable that came with the guitar but better.

Please, somebody, post links to products.

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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2006, 07:41:35 AM »
I had the exact same requirements and found a great solution from Mark Stoddard at Lava Cable:  www.lavacable.com.  He will custom make it to your specs:  cable, jacks, length, amount of split at the end, etc. and won't take 6 months to do it.  HTH.
 

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« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2006, 08:08:01 AM »
quote:
Originally posted by PeterMa

The best description of what I am looking for Simon, is the same Parker cable that came with the guitar but better.

Please, somebody, post links to products.

Just No Poop!

Peter in MA.

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Fender supplies a cable with their Deluxe Power Strats and Teles that is the best I've used so far.  I've had the Monster cable, I have a ProCo cable that is pretty much the same as the one Parker used to ship with Fly's and I have a third cable that I bought from MF made by Horizon.  Of the three, the Fender branded Whirlwind cable is the most flexible and nicest to use.  The Horizon is a nice cable, too.  I only use the ProCo if I need a long cable.  

Horizon cable:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Horizon-HYSP-14-Inch-Insert-Cable?sku=336120

ProCo cable:

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/IPBQ2Q20/



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« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2006, 08:44:50 AM »
For the do-it yourselfer I get my parts from Part Express they have a terrific web site huge company with huge stock. I wanted the best cable I could build myself so I got the Neutrik jacks and Daytona Pro cable both jacks below cost less the $10 for the pair and the cable is 59 cents a foot. I do have to drape the cable over the strap button as the angled jack is pretty heavy and wants to fall out of the weak Parker jack.

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=100-220


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http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=092-100


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« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2006, 11:28:38 AM »
I just left the Lava Man http://www.lavacable.com/ web site and if you want a good premium custom made stereo cable in prices for $25 and up he has them. You can order cables either with a stereo jack on both ends or a stereo jack on one end and a split cable on the other. The sky is the limit here. He is a good guy tell him I sent you.

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« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2006, 11:23:37 PM »
I didn't know about Lava Cables. Very cool site! Thanks.

Bob

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« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2006, 07:36:18 AM »
Alex--Like Bob said--Cool new link--thanks

Diversing off topic for one sec because its an easy quick sample:

This was the featured artist off that web site.You guys probably know of him--Of course I've never heard of him.
Its not my favorite style but he is very good at what he does and what he does is hard to do.

http://andytimmons.com/mp3/Deliver.mp3

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« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2006, 07:45:45 AM »
Back on topic:

Paul Marossy has a web page that links another web page that has an article that explains what makes a good guitar cable versus speaker cable. The two have very different requirements of course and impedence rules over most other factors. It explodes a lot of myths that some high end cable manufactorors make regarding coatings, insulation, lenghts ect.

This is simple stuff Alex and Bob know, but I didn't. I don't know if PeterM knowes much about it but it was a good article and I will try to find the link to post.

Update: I've been looking for 30 minutes and can't find that article[:(]

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« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2006, 07:20:13 PM »
I've been using my lava cable for 2-3 months now.  I wanted all three jacks to be right angle, with about a three foot split between the mono jacks, each of which goes into a different effects chain and then direct to our PA system.  The combined part of the cable is still amazingly slender--no thicker than a regular Monster cable--and about 12 feet long.  I have had no noise or interference problems at all. Highly recommended.
 

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« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2006, 09:45:43 PM »
Hey Kwill what wire did you choose to make your cable from? He has so many people get decision overload trying to choose.

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« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2006, 09:12:44 AM »
Yep.  The toughest thing about Mark's site is the tyranny of so many choices.  I went with the Gotham GAC cable.
 

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« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2006, 02:23:35 PM »
Alex, I'm looking about getting one cable like this you've mentioned but with the whole two cables, do you know were can I get one of those (stereo cable with 90°)?



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« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2006, 04:01:28 PM »
There are links to the store on my original post.

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