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Offline Bill

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« on: October 28, 2006, 10:25:05 PM »
I was thinking of the AER Compact 60/2 .

Anyone have one?

Is there something better for under 1000 dollars?

I need both mic/voice and an acoustic /piezo amp. Maybe for Christmas.

I know I should do a search because we probably covered this but maybe there is something new anyway.

How bout it parker guru's?

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« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2006, 11:05:27 PM »
I recently or should say finally broke down and bought a new Strawberry Blond from SWR. They make a bigger version called the California Blond that has a 2nd channel for voice. Fishman amps are real nice they look fancier and cost a little more. Those are two of the bigger acoustic amp specialists most of the big amp companies have acoustic amps with a 2nd channel for voice. Another option to consider is the Bose PA you add a small acoustic effects box and your ready to go.

http://www.swrsound.com/products/search.php
http://www.fishman.com/products/amplifiers.asp

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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2006, 10:27:12 AM »
Bill,

I would also strongly recommend looking at the Genz-Benz Shen http://www.genzbenz.com/?fa=category&cid=94 series. It also is worth playing. I've played the fishman loudboxs A/B with the GB Shen 200 and much prefered the GB. They make Jr(35),60,100 ,200 versions. I think Jamie (CK) is starting to carry these too, but I'm not sure. I have a local dealer that does a lot of GB stuff. Jeff Genzler came in for a demo on a promo tour several months ago; that is really sharp guy who knows his stuff. Wish I could comment on the SWR too, but no one around carries them.

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« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2006, 11:13:56 AM »
If you are looking for a great product for both look at the Crate CA-125.  You can get them used on ebay for $300.00.  New they are around 650.  It has 2 channels one for vocaals and the other for instrument.  They are small and loud as hell.  I run my Parker throught it and a yamaha DG-80 for the electric side.  

I know that Crate has a bad name for quality, but these acoustic amps are the exception-they also sound great.

I did try out the AER and Genz Benz before purchasing the Crate, and although those amps were great, there were only nominal differences in sound quality and features when compared.  I went with the crate for the bang for the busck & sound.

Couldn't be happier with my rig.

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« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2006, 12:28:26 PM »
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=94234

Hey Bill there is a thread on acoustic amps at the Gear Page. Check it out.

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« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2006, 04:54:14 PM »
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Originally posted by 908ssp

http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=94234

Hey Bill there is a thread on acoustic amps at the Gear Page. Check it out.

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Thanks Alex, Peter, Scot. The lust begins (again).

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« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2006, 08:33:17 PM »
Hey Bill,

I am playing an AER Alpha, and LOVE it. It's so clean. And light (15lbs including the amp's gig bag). I have used it with voice and guitar and it does a fine job keeping the two from getting weird tone combinations.

So, I have that and the Vox, and between the two, I am set. I am also really loving the Zoom G2 pedal. Absolutely great, particularly with the AER Alpha.

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« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2006, 09:08:43 PM »
Another you might think about is an Acoustic Image Coda. I've played these at Luthier and vintage guitar shows and they are incredible. My friend John Stewart at www.myjazzhome.com is a dealer. List is $1395, and I am not sure you'd find it below $1K. But it would be close, and would be the best thing I could recommend for that kind of dough.

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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2006, 08:50:25 PM »
Hey guys, Help!!! I've caught the acoustic amp bug. I appreciate your info and have been researching all these great acoustic amps. Has anyone tried the Marshall AS100D? I've read good reviews on it but cannot try one before I buy! Any thoughts? [:p]

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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2006, 07:25:07 AM »
The best I've tried is the David by Shertler: www.schertler.com

I think it is a slightly higher quality of speakers than the AER, and just as small. In the UK at least, it is a bit cheaper than the AER 60. Made in Switzerland.

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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2006, 05:56:02 AM »
Thanks for the good info everyone.

I read a theory on gear page. One guy suggested a PA system sounded better for vocals and true (mic'ed) acoustic instruments where as acoustic amps like SWR blondes, aer, fishman loudbox, ect actually sounded better for processed acoustic sounds like out of our piezo.

Anyone lend credence to that?

I am now considering a PA system instead of the upper end acoustic amp. Any suggestions? Is there no end to this?

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« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2006, 06:50:13 AM »
Bose. Bose. Bose. We use one at our university. The quality is hifi. And easy to carry.

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« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2006, 09:59:12 AM »
Bill, it makes sense if your running an acoustic through a $5,000 to $10,000 system that simply because of the quality of gear compared to a $1,000 guitar amp, that your going to get better sound! I've always struggled with the small speaker size of an acoustic amp. I always end up attaching a larger high end cabinet to them because I like the quality of the low frequencies better out of them. I'm in a position now that my high end PA gear has been it seems permanently borrowed for use at church, and I need a quality amp/system at home. All of these acoustic amps sound great on paper but I have no way to try any of them out. I will probably stick to a major brand I've had good experience's with like a Marshall. I have found pretty much nothing but high praise for the AS100D. It's all so subjective anyway! [;)]

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« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2006, 10:47:31 AM »
quote:
Originally posted by jamrcat

Hey guys, Help!!! I've caught the acoustic amp bug. I appreciate your info and have been researching all these great acoustic amps. Has anyone tried the Marshall AS100D? I've read good reviews on it but cannot try one before I buy! Any thoughts? [:p]

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I had a Marshall AS50R and it looked great.  I sold it when I bought my UltraSound.  I think the UltraSound sounds better than the AS50R.  I don't know about the 100, but the AS50R is Chinese.  Used to bug me playing an amp with a legendary British name but made in China. [:D]

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« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2006, 11:07:48 AM »
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I had a Marshall AS50R and it looked great. I sold it when I bought my UltraSound. I think the UltraSound sounds better than the AS50R.
John, thanks for chiming in on this one. The UltraSound for comparable wattage and speakers appears to cost more than the Marshall. What model of UltraSound do you have and what about it do you think sounds better specifically? [:)]

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