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Offline 791979

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Pickup adjustments (Fly Classic with gen 1's)
« on: May 04, 2007, 02:31:35 AM »
I have spent a little time playing my new (used) Classic.  I didn't like the Gen1 pickups much at first, but the bridge is growing on me now.

The neck sounds a bit muffled to me, and was a lot quieter than the bridge.  I have tried raising it and playing with the pole pieces and it's a quite a bit better now.  What has surprised me is that the neck pup is closer to the strings than the bridge, this is quite different from what I normally experience with pickups.  Is this normal on the Fly?

I'd be curious to know what height others have there pups set too (especially if they are still Gen1's).  So please do share your setup.

Thanks
Neil
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« Last Edit: May 04, 2007, 02:55:59 AM by 791979 »
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Pickup adjustments (Fly Classic with gen 1's)

Offline 791979

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Pickup adjustments (Fly Classic with gen 1's)
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2007, 03:13:15 AM »
BTW, I just thought that I should post my current heights.  These are measured between the bottom of the string and the top of the bobbin.  Strings are fretted at the 24th fret.

Neck
Low E - slightly less than 4/64ths
High E - slightly less than 4/64ths (a little lower than the low E side)

Bridge
Low E - 6/64ths
High E - 5/64ths

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'98 Parker Fly Classic
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MIJ Fender Telecaster
Cornford MK50H
Cornford Hurricane (for Sale)
Matamp C7 Deluxe
Roland Microcube
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Pickup adjustments (Fly Classic with gen 1's)

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Pickup adjustments (Fly Classic with gen 1's)
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2007, 05:59:22 AM »
I drop both of my pickups all the way down.  I didn't think you can or supposed to adjust the pole pieces. ????
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Pickup adjustments (Fly Classic with gen 1's)

Offline 791979

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Pickup adjustments (Fly Classic with gen 1's)
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2007, 12:31:10 PM »
That's a bit concerning about the pole pieces!  Oh, well they are still working.

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'98 Parker Fly Classic
Ibanez RG550
MIJ Fender Telecaster
Cornford MK50H
Cornford Hurricane (for Sale)
Matamp C7 Deluxe
Roland Microcube
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Ibanez RG550
MIJ Fender Telecaster
Cornford MK50H
Cornford Hurricane (for Sale)
Matamp C7 Deluxe (maybe for sale one day soon!)
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Pickup adjustments (Fly Classic with gen 1's)

Offline BrainWorm

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Pickup adjustments (Fly Classic with gen 1's)
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2007, 04:04:59 AM »
My basic pickup setup is 4/64" on the High E and 8/64" on the Low E. Then I adjust for the tone I want. String fretted on the last fret. Measured from bottom of string to top of pickup.

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Pickup adjustments (Fly Classic with gen 1's)

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« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2007, 06:43:19 AM »
Thanks BrainWorm, do you set both the bridge & neck to this initial setting?

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Cornford MK50H
Cornford Hurricane (for Sale)
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Cornford MK50H
Cornford Hurricane (for Sale)
Matamp C7 Deluxe (maybe for sale one day soon!)
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« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2007, 09:24:32 AM »
As a general rule there is no one right pickup distance setting. Setting the pickup height is a subjective evaluation of the tone. Higher tends to a more powerful over all sound and a strong fundamental but too high starts to kill sustain due to the magnets force on the strings. Lower weakens the fundamental of the note which in turn strengthens the harmonics and over tones. I tend toward father rather then closer. I have read that the standard setting used to be the thickness of a nickel for the high E side and two nickels for the low E side. I find this too high. As far as adjusting the pole pieces it can't hurt the pickup. The bobbins are one piece and the bottom plates are screwed on from the bottom. I have removed the screw entirely for cleaning rust off the heads and put them back with no issues. My feeling is that you can adjust the pole pieces to compensate for a weak string or one that is too loud but that should be secondary to adjusting the whole pickup. If you're raising all the screws I think that is incorrect and you would be better off raising the whole pickup. It isn't difficult and can be done with the strings still on the guitar.

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« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2007, 09:56:10 PM »
Thanks Alex, very helpful.  

Today I tried to lower the pickups and found that there isn't a lot of room to drop them lower, I'm thinking of pulling the foam off of the back of the pickups to try and get more clearance.  Are there any issues with removing the foam?

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'98 Parker Fly Classic
Ibanez RG550
MIJ Fender Telecaster
Cornford MK50H
Cornford Hurricane (for Sale)
Matamp C7 Deluxe
Roland Microcube
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MIJ Fender Telecaster
Cornford MK50H
Cornford Hurricane (for Sale)
Matamp C7 Deluxe (maybe for sale one day soon!)
Session Sessionette 75

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« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2007, 10:03:55 PM »
quote:
Originally posted by 791979

  Are there any issues with removing the foam?



No none at all. All my guitars have the foam removed. I use card board stock to shim the pickups. I wish I could say they are all alike but they aren't some have one layer over the whole surface with a second layer over the high E end some have just the half layer. There is a picture in this thread.
http://forums.parkerguitars.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4743

My point really is to adjust them to suit your taste there is no wrong just different.

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« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2007, 12:12:35 AM »
791979, yes, I set both bridge and neck pickup at the same initial height.

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