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Offline texasguy

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« Reply #75 on: November 27, 2007, 11:21:43 AM »
Mac.
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« Reply #76 on: November 27, 2007, 12:32:51 PM »
You could get the 2.4 dual core but not upgrade your RAM (apple ram is ridiculously expensive). Then, you could just check out newegg.com and buy RAM for an imac way cheaper.
 

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« Reply #77 on: November 27, 2007, 12:37:49 PM »
quote:
Originally posted by guitarmanuk

I am looking at the iMac for general use (e-mail, surfing etc), some web development and I want to get into some music recording, initially using Garageband and possibly then upgrading to Logic or similar.  I was looking at the base spec 20" iMac (due to cost) but is there an advantage of going up to the 2.4ghz version or adding extra memory to the 2.0 version?  The salesman in the shop said the base version would be more than adequate for what I will use it for but I wonder if you experienced Mac users could add your anything to this?


David,

I would go for the faster processor and add ram in a few months because it is much easier to upgrade RAM later on than to upgrade the processor.

Hvr, if you can only do one or the other and don't want to bother making changes later, than buying more ram with the slightly slower processor should give you better performance than the reverse (faster processor with less ram)....

Dave
(PS- I work mostly with PCs, but the concept is basically the same).
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« Reply #78 on: November 27, 2007, 01:36:39 PM »
I agree that you should opt for the faster processor and then go third party for the RAM.  If you're gonna keep it for a few years, you're going to want the bigger motor.  [8D]  Also, make sure that they are shipping with Leopard.  Someone said that there might be a couple months lag before the warehouses all have Jeopard equipped Macs.  Also keep in mind that a full install of Logic Studio eats about 40-45 Gigs of hard drive so plan accordingly.  If you plan to use Leopard's new Time Machine backup system, save a little money for a USB or FireWare external drive. They are cheap these days.


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« Reply #79 on: November 27, 2007, 04:12:53 PM »
Thanks guys.  I think I will go for the 2.4ghz 20" model.  It comes with a slightly larger hard drive and better graphics card so is probably worth it for the extra $150.  As mentioned, I can get more memory later if needs be.  As for Leopard, all new Macs bought from Apple UK ship with it installed.  If you buy from a store, they are old stock and most likely have Tiger installed but you get an update disc when you register to upgrade to Leopard.  I would rather have the proper thing installed from the off and not have the hassle of upgrading.

PS.  I think my PC knows what is going on as it is no longer seeing the second hard drive and I had a "Blue Screen of Death" earlier on tonight!

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« Reply #80 on: November 28, 2007, 03:30:32 PM »
i'll pitch in.

MAC.  all the way.

I've been a PC user for years.  Ever since I first got a computer with Windows 3.11 for Workgroups.  I never found Macs all that exciting, and, for the most part, they were incompatible with everything in PC land, which had the majority of everything.  The last couple years, after reexamining the OS, I've noticed it's made quite a stride forward.

I've seen the Mac evolve from old versions with black and white screens to what it currently is.  I will say that OS X Leopard is a stunning OS, and it makes working on the computer much more enjoyable.  Everything's easily accessible, and it works as it should.  The thing I never liked about Windows is that XP is based off of NT, which is essentially Win98, which was based off Win95, which was based off 3.0.  They've not reinvented anything in over 10 years, and even with Vista being "new," all they did was drop a graphics engine on top of what was already there, and screw with some code so that not everything would work (mainly due to their "new" and "improved" security features).  Computer usage has changed since the days of Windows 95 significantly - time for a redesign, Windows.

Vista's nice if you have all Vista-friendly applications and AT LEAST 2 gigs of RAM.

However, Mac's had most of those features that are now in Vista for several years, some dating back 5 years to X.0.

I still have to use Windows for application and web development, but I use XP inside of Parallels Desktop on my Mac Book Pro.  Runs as Windows should, still crashes as XP tends to do on a normal basis.  Everything's blazing fast, while SHARING 2 GB of RAM between XP and Leopard.  The Dual Core's are crazy fast too.

My Mac has only kernel panic'd once in the 6 months I've had it.  I couldn't tell you how many times my work PC's locked up in 6 weeks.

'nuff said.  I'll take a Mac anyday.  Oh, and try putting GarageBand or Logic on a PC.  :-)



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« Reply #81 on: November 28, 2007, 03:44:41 PM »
Small correction..NT and Win 98 are nothing alike.  Win 95 and 98 were still DOS based, NT wasn't.  NT 4 for workgroups but a Win 95 interface on NT.  Win 2000, and XP are essentially NT under the hood.  I have no experience with Vista and I hope to keep it that way.

I started out on a Radio Shack TRS 80 Model 1, then an Atari 800 and then an Apple //e, which I consider my first real computer.  I sold Z80 based S100 computers in 1980 for a while.  Used every version of MSDos ever released and every version of Windows from 2.0 through XP, only skipping ME. I've also used every version of Red Hat/Fedora Core Linux since REdHat 5.1.  Had a Mac Quadra 660AV with System 7 on it and fell in love with the Mac then.  It took from then until now for me to finally make the switch 100% to a new iMac and I'm really happy with it.  Underneath that pretty face is still a nice geeky Unix like operating system!  Woo Hoo!!  

So that's a long wordy way of agreeing with Macs!! [:D]


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Offline guitarmanuk

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« Reply #82 on: December 05, 2007, 07:02:19 AM »
Well, I have taken the plunge.  Last Sunday I picked up a 2.0ghz dual core 20" iMac.  I couldn't justify the 2.4ghz although I may regret it later.  Anyway, it is fabulous and looked great on my desk. [8D]

Monday morning it went back!! [:(!]  No operating system isnstalled and after 10 hours of trying I couldnt't get it to load OSX.  No support available at that time of day either [V]

Tuesday lunchtime, picked up a brand new replacement.  The original was DOA, which the seller said is very rare.  Anyway they had installed Leopard for me and made sure that this time it was all working.  I also picked up a USB digital TV tuner for $1 as part of a Christmas promotion.  I haven't set it up yet but it looks OK, especially for $1.  Check it out here http://www.miglia.com/tvmini2/

So I set it all up (again) and then I find that my current USB modem isn't compatible with Intel based Macs.  Several phone calls to various call centres in India at premium rates and they tell me I have got to shell out on a new one.  A chap I work with has an ADSL modem/router that is a week old that he is going to let me try and then buy for a cheap price, so that will sort that (I hope).

I have ordered another 1 gig memory module so that will take me up to 2 gig, which will be good.

I got to have a play last night for a while, after wasting a couple of hours trying to set up internet access (I still have my old PC so still have access via that) but not really enough to form any opinions yet.  

All in all, my first experience of a mac has been mixed.  I am sure it can only get better.

David

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« Reply #83 on: December 05, 2007, 12:33:48 PM »
Service should be free...Macs come with 90 days of free phone support if I'm not mistaken. I'm surprised your modem wasn't compatible...hooking up a Mac to anything is as easy as 1-2-3.
 

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Offline guitarmanuk

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« Reply #84 on: December 05, 2007, 01:49:45 PM »
quote:
Originally posted by cmpkllyrslf96

Service should be free...Macs come with 90 days of free phone support if I'm not mistaken. I'm surprised your modem wasn't compatible...hooking up a Mac to anything is as easy as 1-2-3.


I was surprised as well, but on my braodband providers site it clearly states that the USB modem I have is not compatible with the Intel based Macs.   Anyway, I will try the modem I am getting from my work colleague and go from there.

As an aside, I have been playing with simple stuff like iPhoto and that is just great.  As I get into the iMac I really think I am going to like it.  I already love the new style keyboard.

David

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« Reply #85 on: December 05, 2007, 01:59:14 PM »
iPhoto is great.  Wait until you get into Garage Band!  I love Cover Flow view in the folders.  I d o a lot of digital photography and it is usually in Nikon Raw format and even Cover Flow supports Nikon Raw format so I don't even have to open an application and I can get a large preview of any photo file.  I just switched to an iMac a couple months ago.


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« Reply #86 on: December 06, 2007, 02:31:25 AM »
I got a new Mac tower a few days ago, I use ethernet to connect to the internet with. My router is six years old or more, the router connects to the internet modem. I went to
http://www.macsurfer.com/   to check out the latest Mac news before installing new software.   http://www.macfixit.com/   has the latest glitch news also.  http://www.ultimatemac.com/    The Ultimate Macintosh was useful for me a while back, don't know if it is still being kept up to date.
I installed Leopard last Tuesday night and it worked fine. I use erase the hard drive when I install a new operating system, and then reinstall what I want. That way the operating system is fresh. Leopard was a nice install, it imported info from the other hard drive I have the old OS on, email settings, network settings, calender, even a trackball driver. ProTools LE is not ready for Leopard yet so I can't use my MBox in Leopard but I can use it in OSX 10.4 on the second hard drive. Just start up from the hard drive with OSX 10.4 on it.

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