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Offline Yoyo

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« on: October 26, 2007, 05:58:17 AM »
Simon and Paul recently admitted to not liking blues which is fair enough {though it shocked me a little} as there's nothing more subjective than musical tastes. I'm in the opposite camp, a total blues freak who doesn't like modern shredding. I'd be quick to admit it's technically brilliant, but to me it sounds like showing off and smacks of onanism.

I think this subject of likes and dislikes in music and especially guitar styles is a good subject for debate. All opinions welcome.
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« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2007, 06:56:04 AM »
As mentioned, this is all subjective.  We all like different styles and have preferences for some more than others.  I like many styles from jazz to rock, fusion to classical and all variants in between but I suppose blues is my favourite "all round" style.  But you have to take that a bit further.  Delta blues, blues rock, jump blues, power blues etc. So many other styles can be mixed with blues, which is what makes it so interesting to play and to listen to.  

I would agree that the "woke up this morning" type slow blues would get very boring if that is all ther was but listen to Hendrix play Red House and then Rory Gallagher play Laundromat and they are like chalk and cheese, but both still called "blues".  

Also, how do you categorise your favourite players?  For example Larry Carlton is one of my favorites and he is really a jazz player, but plays some great blues.  Robben Ford is mainly a blues player, but plays some great jazz.  I think this discussion could go on for some time.

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« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2007, 08:55:46 AM »
I think it's because I have A.D.D. or something. I need to have notes buzzing around in my brain or I'm not happy. Like some of the first violin solos I heard or a dazzling piano piece. Even Zappa. But on the other hand I love the feeling of a good Satriani love song too or rockin pop/rock song like Nickelback. I didn't grow up with the blues and it just doesn't settle well with my ear. That's not to say I don't like all of it. Traditional blues is basically what I don't like. Of all the blues I've heard there has got to be about 95% where I'm not shocked or amazed moved or anything. Mostly it's because they're so stuck on playing the same boring 12 or 8bar blues. Sure it's fun to jam to I'll admit but I can't listen to the same progression song after song. It's when they do something spicy or have a jazzy orchestrator that I start waking up to it. Take Derek Trucks for example. I find that amazing. But it's more world/jazz than straight blues.

The other main reason for my distance from the blues is genre crossing. I try to avoid staying faithful to only one. I like to see musicians that mix it up. Get jazzy, pluck some country, shred some metal or even write a dance number. Anything but repeating progressions. I've just heard them too many times.

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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2007, 09:00:37 AM »
I like what I like.

I like stuff from most every music genera. I like more rock from my teenage years than from the 90's. I think pigeon holing of music in specific genera's is bad for music and for educating the palate of the general public. I think a lot of music labeling is just nonsensical Led Zeppelin is not heavy metal.

I am not going to say if it is good because I decide if it is good therefore it is the same as saying I like what I like.

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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2007, 09:16:18 AM »
I agree with Alex. I like what I like. There's a lot of shred that I wouldn't listen to either. Probably 90% of the Shrapnel label wouldn't interest me. I think that's why I like Martone so much, he's like a big stewing pot full of craziness.

Alex, Steve Vai's new sound creations CD is listed as metal too!

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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2007, 02:22:24 PM »
I like everything but I love jazz.
 

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« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2007, 04:20:36 PM »
My Dad once told me that every form of art displays brilliance according to the following formula: 90 to 95 % of any medium or style is crap, and 5 to 10% is really good. Maybe 2 or 3% is actually brilliant. It's all about finding what you consider to be the best of whatever happens to groove with your sensibilities (or better yet, creating it).

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« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2007, 04:58:10 PM »
I can appreciate the blues but I'm not much into the pocket-knife-for-a-slide, sittin' on the porch variety.
I love jazz too but I lean toward more melodic stuff rather than hard bop. I listen to everthing and enjoy some of all of it. I really like the guys who have made a mark significant enough for us to want to play like them. Larry Carlton always kills me. Mark Knopfler too.

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« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2007, 08:25:15 PM »
haha I love bop. Give me changes and lots of 'em [;)]. I like the crooner stuff, too. Everything from big band to solo jazz guitar and vocal jazz...all of it. I guess that kind of encompasses blues, too.
 

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« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2007, 08:38:28 PM »
Shawn Lane is my favorite guitarist and he is fusion.

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« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2007, 08:01:35 AM »
Selective within all styles, but blues is #1, especially old dead guys (I hope to be an old dead guy myself one day).


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« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2007, 10:22:05 AM »
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« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2007, 11:38:12 AM »
The only problem with the techiques that one learns to play the shredding style of guitar is that it leads to playing a lot of notes because they can.  But not necessarily because they should.  When that is the case it becomes a little like juggling.  It's amazing but not very inspiring.


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« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2007, 12:05:15 PM »
Shredding can be such a lame generalization though. Is a player a shredder because they CAN play almost anything or because ALL they do is play fast? On one hand the word is used to describe an action and on the other hands a genre and an insult all at the same time.

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« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2007, 12:18:46 PM »
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When that is the case it becomes a little like juggling. It's amazing but not very inspiring.

Juggling is a good word to describe alot that I've heard. I love shredding when it's tasteful and in most cases is short! I love to hear a great cookin' song and then have a tasteful shred lead. I just get tired of hearing it all the time! [:)]

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