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Offline igorgoga

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« on: November 04, 2007, 08:22:21 PM »
Can anyone kindly suggest some sources for learning to improvise and play in progressive rock style "a la Dave Martone" and Greg Howe (to name the few...

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Offline JSanta

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« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2007, 04:00:53 PM »
Check out the John Petrucci forum, there is a wealth of information like that available there.  Just use the search function before you ask any questions that might have been asked a thousand times before.  


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Offline igorgoga

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« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2007, 03:34:24 AM »
ouch, but thank you
 

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« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2007, 08:08:03 PM »
It's not me that you have to look out for, it's some of the other douche bags, I mean members, that will jump down your throat.  Sorry if I came across as hostile, as that was not my intent.  I am a huge prog fan myself, and his forum has been an excellent resource.  Also, Check out the Raleigh Music Academy that Paul Warren runs as well.  Happy practicing!


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Offline ckyvick

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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2007, 11:42:00 PM »
what is progressive rock??? it has yet to progress since about 20 years ago or so. martone rules~
 

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« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2007, 05:43:01 PM »
Progressive Rock is the melding of the finest musicians in the world creating some of the most technical music on the planet; put Pink Floyd and Metallica in a bowl in the microwave, and cook until explosion.  Here are some of the top bands along with some videos.  And as for your comment, IMO you couldn't be more wrong...

Dream Theater:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h81PggfE8I

Symphony X:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLHp0koLbJQ

Fates Warning:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE622Jmcir8

Pain of Salvation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuFJTRdDUMI

Porcupine Tree:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzlDr6aKEH4

Spock's Beard:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMar0wEd59E&feature=related

Planet X:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlL0TARVFWQ&feature=related


I think you get the point...


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Offline PeterMa

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« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2007, 07:19:08 PM »
Jim,

You have excellent taste in music!!!!

The prog rock scene is analagous to dark beer.  It takes a while to get used to but pretty soon you realize that its pretty good stuff.

Happy New Year!
Peter in MA.


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Offline JSanta

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« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2007, 08:20:27 PM »
Why thank you very much Peter!  Those are only the most popular ones I could think of, but as you know the list gets more twisted as you delve into the music.  I have been really digging Kamelot's "Epica" album recently as well.\\


AND I only drink dark beer (except for the occasional Stella, but I am only human after all!)



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« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2007, 10:35:44 PM »
Somehow King Crimson, Gentle Giant, Genesis (with Peter Garbriel) and Yes fell off that list... as I recall, they were the ones who trailblazed, er, I mean, invented progressive rock. As I remember, anyway...

Bob

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« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2008, 12:05:30 AM »
King Crimsons Thrak was the only album I listened to the year it came out.  I still have a hard time wrapping my ears around some of their earlier material, but I have faith that I will get it in 5-10 years.  It took my 5 years to love Led Zeppelin III after wondering why I wasted my money on it.  Now it is my favotite album by them.  Pray to the concert gods for a tour!!!!

I met Adrian Belew in Texas 10 years ago.  He was there to see Fripp!!  Great show.  Cool memories.
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« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2008, 12:06:35 AM »
We seem to have forgotten Zappa as well.
Peter in MA.


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« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2008, 12:11:15 AM »
There is also a stong argument that bands like Phish, moe, String Cheesse and Widespread Panic are progressive.  They have a diffeent take than the rock oriented bands like Dream Theater, but they focus on superior musicianship, odd time signatures, left of center lyrical content and extended jams.

Treys playing blows my mind frequently and I am always sober.

Feel free to hit me with a hippie comment if you must.
Peter in MA.


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« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2008, 04:50:23 AM »
^dude check out ween, phish takes after them like so many other bands but ween is just the best. the links to the first few bands sound just like 80s power metal, nothing really different in any of the songs.
so my question still is why do they call it progressive?
 

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« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2008, 07:18:56 AM »
I was pretty dumbfounded when the jam bands were being referred to as "progressive" cuz they seemed anything but. Not that I didn't like them, but being there at progressive's birth, I just didn't see the bloodlines. Still don't.

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« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2008, 05:37:16 AM »
quote:
Originally posted by ckyvick

^dude check out ween, phish takes after them like so many other bands but ween is just the best. the links to the first few bands sound just like 80s power metal, nothing really different in any of the songs.
so my question still is why do they call it progressive?



If you hear Motley Crue and Poison when you hear Dream Theater or Pain of Salvation, I want whatever you're one, because it's something powerful.


Do yourself a favor and answer the questions yourself.  Try counting the time signatures on any Dream Theater song, try figuruing out what modes Tony MacAlpine is using, and once again, try and figure out exactly how Jordan Rudess can make his hands do the things they do.

Progressive Metal (Neo-Prog, Prog-Rock, etc...) is te idea of music without the boundaries of time signatures and key changes.  They are making superbly complex and techinal music.  It is progressive, it moves on, changing, evolving.

If you don't get it than it's just not something you will.  Either you love it or you can't deal with it.


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