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Offline prjacobs

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« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2008, 10:02:32 PM »
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Originally posted by Bill

If I had strong hands, I would likely only play acoustic.

I love the tone, the simplicity, even the smell. I play my acoustics occasionally and it is refreshing and helpful as an excersize.

But I turn 50 this month. This is my last chance to say I'm 40 something. My hands often hurt. I am thin boned. I need my hands as an occupational Necessity.

If it weren't for the Fly, I wouldn't be playing at all.

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Bill, you might want to try light or extra light electric strings on an acoustic.  Makes it a lot easier on your hands, but still gives you that acoustic rush. I just turned 58.... Yikes!  Luckily my immaturity is sometimes mistaken for youth.
 

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« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2008, 12:30:08 AM »
Alternatively, let them play a VHT amplifier...  That will show off their mistakes almost as good as an acoustic, while keeping their desire for high gain sounds sated.
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Offline David Tomkins

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« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2008, 05:29:21 AM »
i've always found acoustics hard to play - a bit like playing a golfing putt-shot with a baseball bat.  You can do it, but it feels heavy and unwieldy.

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« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2008, 07:11:09 AM »
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Originally posted by David Tomkins

i've always found acoustics hard to play - a bit like playing a golfing putt-shot with a baseball bat.  You can do it, but it feels heavy and unwieldy.

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Hi David,
Yes, you're right... But for all of the reasons listed above, the pay off is worth it.
 

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Offline David Tomkins

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« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2008, 01:38:52 PM »
true.  i like watching yngwie malmsteen do his nylon-string widdlefests - the nylons don't seem to slow him down at all.  wish i could get the same results!

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« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2008, 02:34:05 AM »
if your going to learn acoustic guitar, you should learn classical and get pumping nylon...go through the main exercises of that book and it will take a long time at first, but eventually you will have amazing speed and dexterity, then play a parker and its nothing~
 

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« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2008, 07:05:56 AM »
Being a good acoustic player (not just a strummer) is pretty essential for really knowing guitar as an instrument. You are forced to play properly to sound good. But, just looking at someone like Tommy Emmanuel play you can see that the acoustic is pretty liberating with respect to dynamics and tone - things that you just can't do on an electric. I use really light strings (.011 or .010 sets I think) on an acoustic and the action/playability on my really old Epiphone F145 is very similar to an electric.

The other thing I advise young electric players to do is to forget about effects and guitars with humbuckers and get to be able to cover just about any sound on a strat and an amp before they move on to effects and high-output humbuckers. Like playing an acoustic, there's a lot to be learned from playing a guitar with really articulate sensitive pickups without effects. The overuse of effects enables some pretty nasty habits to have to unlearn later.
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« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2008, 07:50:38 AM »
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Originally posted by mojotron


The other thing I advise young electric players to do is to forget about effects and guitars with humbuckers and get to be able to cover just about any sound on a strat and an amp before they move on to effects and high-output humbuckers. Like playing an acoustic, there's a lot to be learned from playing a guitar with really articulate sensitive pickups without effects. The overuse of effects enables some pretty nasty habits to have to unlearn later.



I agree... That's really what I was trying to tell my son.  It all starts with a clean beautiful sound.  For a beginner, I'd start with clean sounding chords, with no buzz and all notes ringing.
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« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2008, 04:03:26 PM »
Paul, that's what makes the NiteFly such an essential piece of Parker's line!

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« Reply #24 on: August 29, 2008, 07:45:38 AM »
Hi all....have become intrigued by what is spoken here and feel the need say my part in agreement.

Just to throw something in the works about the way people seem to be viewing acoustics in a 'heavy' and troublesome way...my point is an acoustic (as is every other guitar) is what you make of it and how you have it set up!!! and setting up is the key! you could play a strat with 12 or 13's and a high action and it would appear a monster in comparison to most of the acoustics I play, including a 12 string.
I have also played on some that are set just right and they feel like they are set with guage 8 or 9's!
Also if higher tension is a problem in terms of aches and pains then look to lowering the tuning to maybe drop half a step or possibly a shorter scale length guitar. These can all be factors that can aid the explorers. it also means you are able to play for much much longer!

And one more thing I put to everyone as a smile and a verbal nod of aggreement.......It doesn't matter how much effect you throw on something or how loud you crank something up.......nothing can beat THAT sound when you are there with an acoustic in hand playing sweet, deep blues. Its more organic and heartful than you can describe and seems to come more from the soul than anything else.  

thank you for your time...

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« Reply #25 on: August 30, 2008, 09:14:30 PM »
The box is as big as the big blue room, and we're never outside it.

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« Reply #26 on: August 31, 2008, 07:01:10 AM »
If you're gonna drop acid Jeff, ya may as well stick with the electric [:D] [:D] [:D]

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« Reply #27 on: March 17, 2009, 06:24:45 AM »
A ton of excellent points made by all...

As for me, I've also had my phases and different eras that were predominated by either acoustic or electric. But with the exception of my earliest years, the acoustic has essentially remained a constant, with electric guitar weaving in and out... I would imagine it has enhanced my playing when it comes to electric. Since I love open and alternate tunings to no end on acoustic guitar and have constantly experimented and come up with countless 'new' tunings (many remembered and many forgotten...), it is only natural to utilize them on the electric guitar. And when you throw in the use of Kyser capos, notched and unnotched, to allow certain strings to remain open (as pioneered/popularized by David Wilcox), you can achieve some pretty amazing and fairly novel sounds - not to mention, that they're just plain beautiful. Wilcox calls these the 'elbow chords', akin to what one can achieve on a piano...

I'll have to try to finish these thoughts later, as work is getting too busy... [:D]

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« Reply #28 on: March 27, 2009, 07:52:48 PM »
Essentially, if you can play it on acoustic, you'll fly on electric. I used to cover up my playing with scads of distortion and effects. Certainly made me sound better, but made me dead as a guitar player. Finding an old Super 400 and putting medium strings on it, taking a year out to learn how to get sound out of it, and then actually trying to make music with it made me SUCH a better electric guitarist. Most of the time, now, I play with a virtually naked tone. If you want a sobering experience, try that in front of a room full of people (if you are a distortion/effects freak). Turn em off and try to do the same thing. It's kind of cool to put yourself out there on the edge like that and be on the line to make it work.

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« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2009, 05:28:11 AM »
David wilcox seems to get the best live and studio tone, with his olson acoustic, and pendulum preamps.  Don't know if this is up to date or what pickups he uses.