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Offline Mach Hawk

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« Reply #30 on: November 23, 2009, 12:53:47 AM »
I prefer the red small Jazz III's. I just can't play with larger picks, every time I try I sound like a mess. I used to play deathgrip style, but I got extremely frustrated with the pick scratching sounds every time I played a note, so I started to modify my grip. I found that as I picked softer and more relaxed, the less and less scratch I heard. So now I am aiming to play with a softer, but still in control grip. In my head it seems like that would make the most sense. Also it helped eliminate the scratching when I tried playing with the pick parallel to the strings, the only way to play that way comfortably is with a slightly softer grip, and I get almost no scratch sound now, I am impressed. A few simple modifications, and playing seems ten times easier.
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« Reply #31 on: April 28, 2010, 04:26:46 PM »
I am one of the strange ones - I dont use a pick at all. I use the nail on my index finger or middle finger, or semi-pluck with the pads like Knopfler style.

Obviously for sweeps and other tricks, a pick is vital, but I dont do any of that and have a lead guitarist to do the pyrotechnics.
 

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« Reply #32 on: August 17, 2010, 07:26:56 AM »
I remember tortoise shell picks. In the 70's I had gotten three of them. THEY were the BEST picks I have EVER used. Ah, memories. The were, however, tending toward brittle, and could wear fast and crack easily. I use the JD Tortex now,,,73 or 1.0 mm. Normal size, but I turn it and use the shoulder rather than the point. I hold loose, and my hand rests on the guitar. Pinky,,maybe edge of 3rd finger. I don't anchor,,just let it ride, sort of. I tend to pick more over the neck PU, in that area, rather than resting my hand on the bridge, like I used to. Having a guitar that would have the volume control too easily moved shoved my hand toward the neck PU, and then I found the tonality seemed better picking in that area(makes sense, I guess),,that is, unless I want to pick near the bridge.  I see Shawn Lane and Pat Metheny with their hands entirely off the board, feel worried, and then see Allan Holdsworth with his hand touching the body. Picking over the 24th fret makes it easier to get harmonics when picking. Not pinching, either.

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Offline Paul Marossy

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« Reply #33 on: August 17, 2010, 08:38:31 AM »
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Originally posted by PatricBrown

I see Shawn Lane and Pat Metheny with their hands entirely off the board, feel worried, and then see Allan Holdsworth with his hand touching the body.


I'm like Allan Holdsworth. My right hand is always anchored to the body, even when playing rhythm (most of the time). It's so much a part of my technique with muting between runs and chords that it's as natural as breathing.

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« Reply #34 on: August 20, 2010, 05:10:29 AM »
Dunlop Max Grip Jazz 3s
they're awesome.  

Carbon fibre and with the most grip of any pick i've ever had.  not dropped one yet!

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« Reply #35 on: August 20, 2010, 10:27:48 AM »
I went from Jazz III to Stubbys to V-Picks and finally took the leap to pay 20 bucks for a Red Bear Lil Jazzer. Expensive, but worth it to me and without that harmonic squeak Simon mentioned. As for firmness of the pick grip, mine is just enough to keep the pick from flying out of my hand.
 

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« Reply #36 on: August 23, 2010, 09:31:59 AM »
Anyone have an opinion on the Eric Johnson style Dunlops that are like Jazz III's in matte?

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« Last Edit: August 26, 2010, 06:24:58 PM by PatricBrown »
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« Reply #37 on: August 26, 2010, 06:31:30 PM »
Just out of curiosity, I went to the Red Bear site yesterday, and clicked on the 'available now' option, and found a Red Jasper Lil Jazzer heavy with a right hand bevel, and sprung for it. So I guess I'll have it in a few days. It's the Dunlop Jazz I's I like,,,seems the I's, II's & III's are the same except for the point. I have an old I that I drug out, and am using with great satisfaction, 'til I get the Red Bear. I got that pick in the '80s.
Can't find a dealer, but they can be ordered directly from Dunlop. Everyone carries the III's from what I can tell. Looking closely at how I'm holding the Dunlop, it's pointing slightly toward the headstock, like the right hand bevel says it does on the Red Bear I'm getting. Not that I consider myself a master of blinding speed, but,,,,,

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« Last Edit: August 26, 2010, 06:38:44 PM by PatricBrown »
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« Reply #38 on: August 27, 2010, 10:45:05 AM »
Having started on a bass I just use my four right fingers and sometimes a nail like Highlander. I really wish I could do both, and sometimes when I try a pick it seems natural, but that does'nt mean I can play 64th notes
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« Reply #39 on: September 01, 2010, 09:21:54 AM »
I moved from a flatpick to thumbpick about 25 years ago. Has the great advantage of allowing you to let go of the pick to pluck with your fingers without dropping the pick on the floor.[:)]
I don't know why more guitar players don't do this, although I remember that an adaptation period of several weeks was necessary at the beginning.



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« Reply #40 on: January 20, 2011, 02:59:27 PM »
I use the thinnest pick available, 0.38, and finding even this is too thick. I hold it very loosely, otherwise, I can't get any decent rhythm going as a thick pick causes too much tension on the strings. I'm now at the point where I don't bother with a pick most of the time. My favorite players (knopfler, Beck, Ford) use their fingers most of the time, and I get much better tone using my thumb and fingers. Most of my action comes from left hand, very little movement on the right. This works for acoustic or electric. I have one fake fingernail on my index and use that as a pick when I need it.
 

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Offline sford

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« Reply #41 on: January 20, 2011, 09:03:43 PM »
I have always needed a firm grip on my picks up until recently.   I started out using Fender picks but they were always slippery.  I later switched to Dunlap which offered better traction and durability allowed me to lighten up my some.  Last year I switched again to V-Picks (v-picks.com) as a recommendation from my local guitar shop.. All I have to says these picks are awesome.  They are made of a special blend of acrylic, which prevents the pick from sliding around and I think they sound better over regular picks.  I switched from a full size tear drop pick to a smaller jazz style pick which is now my favorite.  V-Picks are not cheap but they hold up well.  They make many different sizes and ones that glow in the dark too.
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« Reply #42 on: July 29, 2011, 05:06:59 AM »
I second Guitarman's post.
I'd played thin picks for years, Dunlops mainly, and found that i was gripping too tightly, leading to hand fatigue. I tried V-Picks and was an instant convert to a thicker pick. I have tried a number of their models, but my favorite is The Screamer, really a great pick, now comes in Ruby Red! not so easy to loose now![;)]
I have aso purchased a Big Jazzer II, (Took over a month to arrive)also a great pick, but very expensive compared to the Screamer, not as thick, and without the great leading edge of the Screamer and smaller in size. The V-Pick also has 3 points, so as one point gets worn in, you have options, as this creates the ability to have tonal variation using a rounder worn in point or more attack with a fresher point. the wearing occurs over many hours of playing, and gets more comfortable with use. I've had my original for over 4 years and it still feels great.
My 2 cents, try a V-Pick, I noticed an instant change for the better in my technique, and no more hand ache.

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Offline Keith Grasse

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« Reply #43 on: October 19, 2011, 02:40:48 PM »
I use a 0.5 mm thick pick and my grip on it varies with what I'm doing. Paul Gilbert talks somewhere about the "thwap" of a thin pick as compared to thicker picks. I agree with him and cannot abide even a 0.60 or a 0.75 mm pick. The down side is that these thin picks don't last very long and you need to buy them by the gross. One thing I have tried is to get more consistent with the way my index finger and thumb hold the pick. In this I have been inconsistently successful! I also find that I prefer a smooth glossy surface to a matt finish for a pick. I think that the small bit of moisture from my fingers creates a degree of surface tension which improves my grip on the pick. The matt finish disturbs this in a way which is very noticeable -- at least to me! Some of this stuff must sound like complete insanity to the uninitiated! Or maybe to the initiated as well!

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« Reply #44 on: October 19, 2011, 06:56:41 PM »
When I use a pick, I use the Jim Dunlop Big Stubby 3.0mm. I'm all about the bell tone, and they are easy to hang on to. I would say my grip is pretty light. I never wear them out. I prefer to use my fingers for the most part.

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