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PARKER CLASSIFIEDS / Re: SOLD Parker NiteFly Mojo EUC $1200 Free Ship
« Last post by samlorac on April 26, 2017, 07:11:03 PM »
Yay...I'm going to Johannesburg!!!
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FLY GUITARS / Re: Replace pre-refined Fly output jack
« Last post by ylph on April 26, 2017, 06:35:11 PM »
Here is what my install currently looks like :







I just realized I put the Switchjack cover nut/ferrule on the "wrong way" - the bowl side is supposed to go towards the guitar.  I think there is enough slack to move the jack further out and correct it, but I actually kind of like the bowl, so I think it will stay as is for now - plus now that it works, I am reluctant to start messing with it again.

The Switchjack itself is pretty much unmolested here, I only clipped off some of the leads inside.  I also added wires with a bit of slack to connect the new jack to the original foil cables, and did not attempt to connect it directly.  This gives the freedom to move the jack around without worrying about twisting and damaging those ridiculous foil cables.  I never found a live copy of any of the wiring instructions on-line, so I was flying by the seat of my pants there, and just connecting everything based on testing continuity on the original wiring and making sure everything is identical.

I suppose the cause of your problem might in fact be something else.  It still sounds like it could be mechanical with the jack (since my symptom was quite identical to yours), as opposed to something to do with the Fishman electronics, but I don't really know enough about it to rule anything out.

I did test mine for continuity, both before and after modification (to make sure everything was wired identically) - but as far as I recall, I did the test before installing the cover nut/ferrule, so everything tested fine at the time.

Sadly, despite making it work again, I still can't really find a use for the stereo mode anyway - to be honest I never even use the piezo pickups to begin with, and just use the magnetic ones.
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P SERIES GUITARS / Re: P-44 backplates/circuit board issues... Help!
« Last post by visualrocker69 on April 26, 2017, 05:15:45 PM »
Interesting. Let's take this to PM...
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FLY GUITARS / Re: Replace pre-refined Fly output jack
« Last post by resettheconsole on April 26, 2017, 05:11:12 PM »
ylph,

Thanks for your input.

I actually did chop off 2-3mm of the Switchjack, and made it so that the black Parker ferrule threads all the way to the shoulders of wider part of the jack. The cabler does feel like it solidly connects, but still no stereo. Before i cut the jack, the cable definitely did not fully engage .

I feel like I would have ohm'd out the end of the cable to the pin of the jack, but maybe I didn't. When I get a chance, I'll make sure i have continuity from the ring of the stereo cable all the way to the piezo pin on the Switchjack.

Even if I shown no issue with continuity, I'll switch out the to ferrule that came with the Switchjack and post results.
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FLY GUITARS / Re: Replace pre-refined Fly output jack
« Last post by ylph on April 26, 2017, 05:05:39 PM »

The guys at Parker told me that your statement is wrong. The output jack will still work

Then they should come out and fix my 98 Deluxe (and a few other members) who have reported stereo mode quitting on them after this install. ::)

From a wiring standpoint, yes, their 'fix' should work, everything lines up and looks good. But something kills the piezo in stereo mode.

It could very well be an issue with the jack that I and others have used, maybe it's somehow shorting the piezo (ring) signal to ground. I put a decent number of hours into trying to troubleshoot, and I can guarantee that my fly is wired exactly as the diagram provided by USMusic, with a Switchjack Endpin jack, and my piezo is dead in stereo mode only.

In the end I gave up troubleshooting, as this guitar is a workhorse - far from flawless, and the lack of stereo output didn't bother me too much. If I ever get ambitious enough to find out why, I'll post the results.

Just giving a fair warning, is all. Maybe it will work for you, but if you might be able to save/fix the original jack and not run the risk, why not try?

I know this is a very old post, but having recently replaced the output jack on my 99 pre-refined Classic Fly with the Fishman Switchjack, and ended up experiencing the same symptom - the piezo pickups no longer working in stereo mode - I figured I will add my experience for anyone else who might stumble upon this thread, since it does come up high in related search results.  Having read this post before, I originally chalked it up as a know issue, and an acceptable sacrifice since a) my old jack was horribly unreliable, cutting out all the time making the guitar unusable even at home, much less gigging, and really needed to be replaced and b) I never use the stereo mode, so no big loss - everything else worked perfectly, including piezo in mono mode.

But months later, I finally realized that the plug on my cable is not actually getting fully inserted into the Switchjack - by perhaps a small fraction of a mm - something that wasn't quite obvious at first.  The plug was held in securely, but lacked quite the positive snap I normally expect when plugging into a 1/4 inch jack.  I've read before that when installing the Switchjack, I can keep the original Parker black jack cover nut, so that the installation looks totally stock from the outside, and this is what I did, and indeed, everything appeared to fit and looked original from the outside.  But as it turns out, the Parker cover nut is just ever so slightly thicker than the one that came with the Switchjack, and did not allow the plug to go all the way in and make proper contact.  So I replaced the cover nut with the Switchjack one - and now, the cable plugs in with a very positive snap and click at the end, and the piezo works again in stereo mode just like before !

Parker instructions do mention that the end of some of the replacement jacks needs to be ground off to fit properly, although it also states that the Switchjack should fit with "minimal to no modifications" - which I assumed meant no grinding needed on the open end, but perhaps I read it wrong.  I think grinding off some of the Switchjack at the open end would allow it to be used with the stock cover nut - it does not seem like much is needed either.  The Switchjack cover nut does stick out about 1/3 inch out, and is shiny chrome - but I am ok with that, so I won't attempt to grind the jack for now, since at this point it would be purely for aesthetic reasons.  It also has a sort of bowl shaped guide rim around it to make pluging in by feel easier, so I might even prefer it functionally to the original.

So if you have replaced the jack, and have no piezo in stereo mode, make sure your plug is reaching all the way in !  You can try it easily by simply removing the cover nut and plugging into a loose jack (just make sure you hold it from the inside, so as not to mess up any of the delicate wiring)
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P SERIES GUITARS / Re: P-44 backplates/circuit board issues... Help!
« Last post by billy on April 26, 2017, 04:06:36 PM »
Unfortunately, Rochester is about 5 hours west of NYC and it would be about 4 hours out of your way from PGH.

I would be happy to look at this for you if you wanted to make the trip.  I don't think I have any trips to pgh coming up anytime soon.  There may be a trip to NYC area in mid june, but too soon to tell.

Failing that you can send it to me, but really if you send some pictures it may be something easy to spot.
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GENERAL DISCUSSION / Re: Even the forum is going away
« Last post by ParkerPlayer on April 26, 2017, 02:20:37 PM »

I'm trying to find a nice 524DF for my duo partner.

Have you already looked at this one?   Girls love purple....maybe.

https://reverb.com/item/2808452-parker-dragonfly-df524-201x-purple-metallic
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GENERAL DISCUSSION / Re: Even the forum is going away
« Last post by jb63 on April 26, 2017, 12:24:47 PM »
I'm trying to find a nice 524DF for my duo partner. She loves her PM10, but likes my lighter DF even better. So I had plans of getting her one for our anniversary, and they are nowhere to be found. Sweetwater, GC, Music 123, Sam Ash don't even have old stock to sell.

Notes

Here's one:

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Used/Parker-Guitars/Maxx-Fly-Radial-Solid-Body-Electric-Guitar.gc
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GENERAL DISCUSSION / Re: Even the forum is going away
« Last post by Paul Marossy on April 26, 2017, 11:23:24 AM »
Paul it is good to see you post - I am always interested in your perspective.

I've certainly had my frustrations with guitar, but when things are bad I just play for myself. Explore, find things that are new, that perhaps no one has ever heard that way exactly before. And know then that this is what makes you unique.

We are a community bound by a guitar brand, from all over the world, with different backgrounds, skills, interests, and day jobs (see a different thread). Following this we get different perspectives on life, the universe, and everything*. I enjoy seeing posts by Notes - gigging in a duo in south Florida, how cool is that? Dayn Warren, a pastor in the northwest. You, in Las Vegas, dealing with the economic meltdown that happened there. I'm a medical school department chair. What a cool, valuable asset this is to us all.

Honored to be part of this,
Jeff

I enjoy riding my bicycle more these days than playing the guitar. Most of what I have ever done on guitar has "been for myself", but it got real old being a Dead Sea of creativity after playing guitar for like 30 years and it never going anywhere. I still like to play my guitar, but it's not like the main focus of my life anymore, probably won't ever be again. Speaking of the meltdown... I am STILL about $80K upside down on my house, I'll likely never get out of it unless I just walk away, which is something I refused to do back in 2009 for the kid's sake. Now that I have my credit in the 800s again walking away is not really something I want to do. "When life gives you a pile of crap".... not sure what you're supposed to do with that.  ???
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GENERAL DISCUSSION / Re: Even the forum is going away
« Last post by Notes_Norton on April 26, 2017, 10:15:27 AM »
Parker is still posting on Facebook with reasonable frequency, and the re-launch promise is still on the Parker web site, so I'm hopeful that something good will happen. Posting on social media would be the last thing on their minds if they were intending to close the business, but if they are going to bring the brand back it makes perfect sense to do it. And even if the new products are not at the level some people want, they will likely bring new players to the brand and the forum. Fingers crossed not long now.
Thanks Jamie,

I hope I was just being pessimistic the other day.

I'm trying to find a nice 524DF for my duo partner. She loves her PM10, but likes my lighter DF even better. So I had plans of getting her one for our anniversary, and they are nowhere to be found. Sweetwater, GC, Music 123, Sam Ash don't even have old stock to sell.

I'm not the world's best guitarist by any stretch of the imagination. I get by OK though. My main instrument is sax/wind synthesizer. I also play bass, drums and keys, though not in our duo. At least in real time as I make my own backing tracks.

Leilani plays rhythm guitar and synth on stage.

That means we both switch instruments frequently. A 5 pound guitar is a blessing.

Add to that the tuning stability, balance, and ease of playing, it is a tool that makes the job of expressing ourselves to entertain the audience easier. And when the use of the tools are easier, the music comes out better.

I found a couple on ebay but they were upscale models and more than I can justify right now.

Notes
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