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General Discussion => GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Big Swifty on July 15, 2015, 06:55:29 PM

Title: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed! RE-Edit: Ummm....
Post by: Big Swifty on July 15, 2015, 06:55:29 PM
(EDIT: Check the response from Forum Admin jd84mc884qb down the thread a little, clears it up.)

(RE-EDIT: 2016 Mmmm, looks like it is closed)

Well....

The bridge pup on my fly broke the other day, so in researching options/rewinds/replacements etc i came across a few old posts here about fitting new inserts in the body to accommodate for replacement pups and their different pole spacing.

I contacted USM to see if these parts were available, and received the following response:

We are sorry that these parts are no longer available from Parker Guitars.
There is no way to get them anymore as the USA Parker Guitars division is now closed.
Thanks for understanding.
 
 
Sincerely,
Parker Guitars
Customer Service and Sales Support
U.S. Music Corporation

!

Did i just miss the bus on this one, or is it common knowledge?

*sigh

Parker on..for as long as possible...


Big Swifty
Title: Re: Parker closed?
Post by: sybersitizen on July 15, 2015, 07:00:06 PM
The news has been out for over a month... but it has been hidden in this harmless-sounding thread:

http://forums.parkerguitars.com/index.php/topic,15786.msg138477.html
Title: Re: Parker closed?
Post by: Big Swifty on July 15, 2015, 07:30:53 PM
Right, thanks for the pointer sybersitizen.

Well, it's a darn shame to see a great guitar and a great idea come to the end of it's commercial life.

I love seeing the occasional Fly pop up in the wild, may they long continue to do so.

Big Swifty

Title: Re: Parker closed?
Post by: sybersitizen on July 15, 2015, 07:44:25 PM
The strange thing is that despite the very direct email revelations, we get utter silence on the official website, and utter silence here in the forum from company reps. Yet the Parker Facebook page continues to get simplistic updates every few days... all smiley-happy stuff and not a discouraging word to be heard there. There's a feel-good 'news' update there today, posted just seven hours ago.
Title: Re: Parker closed?
Post by: Mr303 on July 15, 2015, 08:54:11 PM
Well

I contacted USM to see if these parts were available, and received the following response:

We are sorry that these parts are no longer available from Parker Guitars.
There is no way to get them anymore as the USA Parker Guitars division is now closed.
Thanks for understanding.
 
 
Sincerely,
Parker Guitars
Customer Service and Sales Support
U.S. Music corporation
.  Hmmm, this blurb sounds quite definite.
 I only found parkers a couple years ago!
Guess there's no custom shop for me, ever.
  I think I did see a bit on here about Parkers going to be made in Europe, possibly by Strandberg?

The strange thing is that despite the very direct email revelations, we get utter silence on the official website, and utter silence here in the forum from company reps. Yet the Parker Facebook page continues to get simplistic updates every few days... all smiley-happy stuff and not a discouraging word to be heard there. There's a feel-good 'news' update there today, posted just seven hours ago.

The Parker website lauded the new Facebook blogger awhile back, so I usually have assumed any happy happy joy joy is drivel generated on a smartphone whenever convenient without any real concern for facts, or useful information especially for fans or forum members.
Once again Facebook proves to be an extreme waste of time....Mr303 don't do Facebook.   8)

Gather together the Parkers you own, count your lucky stars, especially if you have more than one special model.

Think I'll just stay here and drink!

Cheers!
Title: Re: Parker closed?
Post by: Patzag on July 15, 2015, 10:25:37 PM

Guess there's no custom shop for me, ever.

  I think I did see a bit on here about Parkers going to be made in Europe, possibly by Strandberg?

Think I'll just stay here and drink!

Cheers!


You've got the Strandberg story wrong.   Parker (Washburn) used to make the Custom Shop models for Strandberg.

But don't drink your money away.  Buy my Custom instead!  😃

Title: Re: Parker closed?
Post by: Nefarius on July 16, 2015, 02:41:47 AM
Well, I seriously expect the website and the forum to be suddenly gone without any warning some dark day soon.
However there are several people on the forum I'd like to stay in contact with.

For those of you who would like to stay in contact with me: PM me for my e-mail address or my Skype name.

Greetings...
Nef
Title: Re: Parker closed?
Post by: Mr303 on July 16, 2015, 07:01:19 AM

Guess there's no custom shop for me, ever.

  I think I did see a bit on here about Parkers going to be made in Europe, possibly by Strandberg?

Think I'll just stay here and drink!

Cheers!




You've got the Strandberg story wrong.   Parker (Washburn) used to make the Custom Shop models for Strandberg.

But don't drink your money away.  Buy my Custom instead!  😃


Ok.  Yes after looking at the Strandberg site you are correct sir! 
Title: Re: Parker closed?
Post by: Paul Marossy on July 16, 2015, 09:08:22 AM
USA Parker Guitars division is now closed.

I must say that I am not surprised by this news. Actually, I'm surprised it hasn't happened sooner.  ???

Since day one with the introduction of the Fly it's been a continuous uphill battle on every front for Parker.
Title: Re: Parker closed?
Post by: sybersitizen on July 16, 2015, 10:28:12 AM
Well, I seriously expect the website and the forum to be suddenly gone without any warning some dark day soon.

I have an alternative just in case that dark day arrives:

http://forums.parkerguitars.com/index.php?topic=15821.msg138734
Title: Re: Parker closed?
Post by: jd84mc884qb on July 16, 2015, 11:32:05 AM
From the horse's mouth, here's what's happening folks. The USA shop here has ceased production but Parker is not closing or going out of business. We are currently looking for another USA source for our high end Parkers. The PDF series will continue to be available and customer service will continue to help current Parker owners to the best of their ability. In the case of the OP, the guitar in question was from the mid '90s and these parts have not been available for quite some time. Hopefully this will ease your minds that Parker is not going to disappear and we're here for you.
Title: Re: Parker closed?
Post by: Patzag on July 16, 2015, 01:22:30 PM
From the horse's mouth, here's what's happening folks. The USA shop here has ceased production but Parker is not closing or going out of business. We are currently looking for another USA source for our high end Parkers. The PDF series will continue to be available and customer service will continue to help current Parker owners to the best of their ability. In the case of the OP, the guitar in question was from the mid '90s and these parts have not been available for quite some time. Hopefully this will ease your minds that Parker is not going to disappear and we're here for you.

Well this is (sorta) good news.  Thanks for the data!
Who do we contact for Customer support now?

Title: Re: Parker closed?
Post by: jd84mc884qb on July 16, 2015, 03:51:26 PM
You can continue to reach customer service through customer.service at usmusiccorp.com.
Title: Re: Parker closed?
Post by: Big Swifty on July 16, 2015, 07:07:37 PM
From the horse's mouth, here's what's happening folks. The USA shop here has ceased production but Parker is not closing or going out of business. We are currently looking for another USA source for our high end Parkers. The PDF series will continue to be available and customer service will continue to help current Parker owners to the best of their ability. In the case of the OP, the guitar in question was from the mid '90s and these parts have not been available for quite some time. Hopefully this will ease your minds that Parker is not going to disappear and we're here for you.
Cheers thanks for clearing that up jd84mc884qb!

Glad to hear the brand will continue, i hope wherever it ends up maintains a commitment to high standards and etc etc.

For everyones info, i was after a few bits for my 94 Fly Deluxe and, yes, i realise it's been out of production for many years but you never know if there's still a few bits laying around someplace. You guys at USM did check down the back of the couch didn't you?  ;)

Ok, Parker onwards!

Big Swifty
Title: Re: Parker closed?
Post by: resettheconsole on July 17, 2015, 02:15:17 PM
In the case of the OP, the guitar in question was from the mid '90s and these parts have not been available for quite some time.

Nonsense!! He was looking for threaded inserts to mount pickups, which have been the same (or similar enough to be used interchangeably) from 1991 to the current cease-production. The fault lies with everyone at USM who hears anything about an older fly and instantly blurts out "WE CAN'T (read: WONT) HELP YOU!"

I got a set for myself sometime in 2013-14 for a pre-refined Deluxe. The trick was to skirt around what year the guitar was made. Guess what? They worked perfectly. I hope if you find a new factory for U.S. production that with it comes a new method and mentality for supporting your end users.

Swifty, if you need some guidance finding threaded inserts that will work, feel free to send me a PM and we can discuss. You're much better off leaving the old ones in place, so its not important for them to be exactly the same.
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: Patzag on July 17, 2015, 05:04:18 PM
You can continue to reach customer service through customer.service at usmusiccorp.com.

This is what I got as an answer ...
"Your message couldn't be delivered because the group you're sending to needs to know who you are before it will accept your message.

To fix this problem, ask the email admin for the group to configure the group to accept messages from you."
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: Big Swifty on July 17, 2015, 09:29:30 PM
Cheers, thanks for the offer resettheconsole!

However, I've given the pickup to a local tech to rewind, hopefully he'll do a good job..

Yeah, i would've thought the inserts were kinda standard, but anyway....the other thing i was after was the little plastic lens thing in the back cover the battery LED shines through, as mine has busted and started falling out. A little superglue fixed that.

I tried to find a new pickup in Australia, but none to be had. Unfortunately, DiMarzio licensing (or whatever it's called) doesn't allow USA dealers to ship pickups to Australia, so here's an interesting catch 22, DiMarzio no longer makes the Gen 2 pups, there are none to be had in AUS, (i.e. the distributor would say they are unavailable should they take the time to respond to my email, Australian Music Supplies) and the few left in the states can't be shipped.

I do have friends in the USA who would be happy to buy and post them to me if necessary, but given the current exchange rate, it's just not worth it.

*sigh

Life's to short to **** around with organisations and institutions too much. Those inserts are brass, not too hard to tool and work if necessary i.e. make yourself, but i agree, re-drilling the guitar for new ones seems like an extreme solution, and hopefully the tech can rewind the pup to spec and i can get back to battling the system using the vehicle of the guitar solo soon.

My 94 Deluxe is a fantastic guitar.

I hope that USM will be in a position to offer a product of equal quality in the future.

Ciao

Big Swifty

Edit (agan!): Just got a response from Australian Music Supplies, apparently the pickups are still available as a custom order from DiMarzio. So there you go!
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: Nefarius on July 20, 2015, 06:18:27 AM
jd84mc884qb: "We are currently looking for another USA source for our high end Parkers."

What does this mean in real life terms?

Is Parker looking for a buyer to continue the production of the high end models with all or at least part of the existing team with all its experience and know how?

Or simply for any investor who will pay for the brand and the rights to build something "parker-ish" by themselves, however far away that might be from an instrument a typical forum regular would consider "a real Parker"?

I'd simply like to know if it's worth waiting for a new dawn on Parker's horizon or if I should seriously start to consider other options in long term guitar supply.

Greetings...
Nef
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: mountaindewaddict on July 20, 2015, 12:07:02 PM
jd84mc884qb: "We are currently looking for another USA source for our high end Parkers."

What does this mean in real life terms?

Is Parker looking for a buyer to continue the production of the high end models with all or at least part of the existing team with all its experience and know how?

Or simply for any investor who will pay for the brand and the rights to build something "parker-ish" by themselves, however far away that might be from an instrument a typical forum regular would consider "a real Parker"?

I'd simply like to know if it's worth waiting for a new dawn on Parker's horizon or if I should seriously start to consider other options in long term guitar supply.

Greetings...
Nef

Me too.  I'd like clarification on that point as well, Bill.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: CSereday on July 21, 2015, 01:33:42 AM
So I have a Maxxfly 842 on order with an estimated delivery of "the week of the 21st of july" through sweetwater. I ordered about 6 months ago, and got originally quoted for the end of april, then they told me at that time it was estimated around july 21st.

Should I be worried?? lol
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: jd84mc884qb on July 21, 2015, 10:10:17 AM
The shop here is just finishing up the last of the orders so I would still expect your 842.
This is all the info I have and have been given as I'm not involved in the search for a shop. I wish I could tell you more.
There are still retailers out there who should have some USA stock. Music Store Live (http://musicstorelive.com/) just took delivery of a very nice selection of USA Parkers.
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: CSereday on July 21, 2015, 11:05:39 AM
I talked to sweetwater this morning and they said that all the orders on the docket will be fulfilled. My new date is the first week in august.

I hope my parker isnt one of the last ones ever made :(   You know how business goes. Hopefully a new shop is found and everything is kosher.
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: Patzag on July 21, 2015, 12:11:38 PM
Just checked out the Music Store selection.  Beautiful guitars.

I actually don't totally understand this "search for a shop" concept.  I thought USM owned the shop and that was that. 

I guess Parker is going to subcontract their US production to someone else?  The way Strandberg subcontracted their custom instruments to Washburn?

I can understand this as a potential business model.  USM/Jam already has asian manufacturer build their PDF models.  Now the DF and other US-made models would be made by XXX company and branded Parker.  If that's the case, I wonder how much of the original technology will be retained.

Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: orpheus on July 24, 2015, 01:00:34 AM
Wow!This is a real Bummer.I guess it's back to maple necks for me.I guess I'll have to test out the new Petrucci model.It looks like it wants to be a Parker with the upper horn and the bridge.I realize that Parkers cost a bit more than your average guitars but they're definitely above average guitars.If they would've endorsed some guitarists that were "known",they might've been in better shape now.I guess none of that matters now.This may sound stupid but it seems like usmusic really didn't care about Parker guitars.No high profile endorsements,no changes to the website,and really no advertising.It's kinda like what Gibson did to Steinberger.I don't know.Im not trying to offend anybody.Im always lurking in the forum but I'm pretty sad right now.I'm in the market for a Mojo but I guess I'll sit and wait.maybe it's time to move on.
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: Nefarius on July 24, 2015, 04:03:04 AM
When the Majesty came out I immediately thought "hmmm, that concept sounds very much like a Parker". Lucky for me I also happen to like the design a lot. They are definitely on my "list of alternatives to test drive in case of a Parker worst case scenario".

Imagine Ernie Ball Music Man acquiring Parker USA and combining their "Game Changer" pickup concepts and impressive track record of quality control with our favorite carbon wrapped beauties and the world's best fretboards. Combining two of the very few guitar companies that dare to try new ideas. That would be a best case scenario for me, however unrealistic and unlikely.

Greetings...
Nef
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: Patzag on July 24, 2015, 09:24:58 AM
When the Majesty came out I immediately thought "hmmm, that concept sounds very much like a Parker". Lucky for me I also happen to like the design a lot. They are definitely on my "list of alternatives to test drive in case of a Parker worst case scenario".

Imagine Ernie Ball Music Man acquiring Parker USA and combining their "Game Changer" pickup concepts and impressive track record of quality control with our favorite carbon wrapped beauties and the world's best fretboards. Combining two of the very few guitar companies that dare to try new ideas. That would be a best case scenario for me, however unrealistic and unlikely.

Greetings...
Nef

My exact thoughts ...
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: lucgravely on July 24, 2015, 12:27:05 PM
I've actually decided I'm going with Music Man Silhouette Special with piezo for me next purchase. Sub 7lb guitar with piezo. It fits my needs.
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: aleclee on July 24, 2015, 05:56:24 PM
I was an EBMM guy before getting my first Parker.  My next guitar will probably be a Strandberg.  Nothing wrong with EBMM but aside from its lack of piezo, the Strandberg's features and design appeal more to me.
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: Patzag on July 24, 2015, 07:25:53 PM
I was an EBMM guy before getting my first Parker.  My next guitar will probably be a Strandberg.  Nothing wrong with EBMM but aside from its lack of piezo, the Strandberg's features and design appeal more to me.
Interesting.  I was looking into this too.  Sub-2K, 4 lbs, innovative spirit.  Similar things that drew me to Parker.
I'd love to try one.
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: bembamboo on July 26, 2015, 07:12:48 AM
jd84-why does a 2013 fly suffer the same problem a 1998 fly does-forward leaning posts?  did post-2013 flys come with derlin washers pre-installed from the factory?

i join syber and nef wondering why you guys are unresponsive to follow-up for serious issues?
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: Nefarius on July 27, 2015, 01:09:33 AM
To bembamboo:

Neither sybersitizen nor I wrote anything about issues. Most replies in this post are about wanting a clear statement regarding Parker's status and plans (or hopes) for the future. The only issues are clearly your own. Many forum members have expressed their sympathies for the problems you have with your guitar and that in an ideal world it's something that should have been addressed years ago, even though not too many instruments seem to be affected. But even more forum members have asked you again and again to stop beating this repeatedly killed and reanimated zombie horse by bringing up your number one topic in almost every post you're participating in. This repetition is so sad and tiring that even your forum posts seem to be leaning by now. So please don't enlist sybersitizen's name or my own to make your foolish quest for revenge look anything beyond the nuisance it has become.

You should worry about Parker's future too or you might be left without a company to hate or a forum to pester.

Greetings...
Nef
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: mountaindewaddict on July 27, 2015, 09:58:18 AM
When the Majesty came out I immediately thought "hmmm, that concept sounds very much like a Parker". Lucky for me I also happen to like the design a lot. They are definitely on my "list of alternatives to test drive in case of a Parker worst case scenario".

Imagine Ernie Ball Music Man acquiring Parker USA and combining their "Game Changer" pickup concepts and impressive track record of quality control with our favorite carbon wrapped beauties and the world's best fretboards. Combining two of the very few guitar companies that dare to try new ideas. That would be a best case scenario for me, however unrealistic and unlikely.

Greetings...
Nef

That sounds like a GREAT idea!  I'm not holding my breath though...
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: CSereday on July 30, 2015, 08:55:30 PM
So parker ****ed me. They called sweet water and let them know they arnt comming through with my guitar. 6 months of waiting, and they call today when 2 weeks ago they told sweetwater the first week of august. Mother ****ers. What do I get now. I want something with those features, and there just isnt anything else like it.
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: sybersitizen on July 30, 2015, 10:23:46 PM
I want something with those features, and there just isnt anything else like it.

What features were you excited about? What was the price?
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: CSereday on July 31, 2015, 06:40:26 AM
Well, I'm mainly refering to the carbon fiber wrap, glass fretboard, 4lbs., piezo's. Mainly just the stuff that you dont find on anything but a parker.
I was payin full price 4300.
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: sybersitizen on July 31, 2015, 09:29:32 AM
Well, I'm mainly refering to the carbon fiber wrap, glass fretboard, 4lbs., piezo's. Mainly just the stuff that you dont find on anything but a parker.
I was payin full price 4300.

Four pounds is the extreme light end of the scale; five will be more like it in most cases... but aside from that, I'm seeing plenty of Flys and MaxxFlys available new right now that meet your criteria - and a whole bunch of used options for quite a bit less.

Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_st_price-desc-rank?keywords=parker+guitar&rh=n%3A11091801%2Ck%3Aparker+guitar&qid=1438352703&sort=price-desc-rank

eBay:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=parker+%28fly%2C+maxxfly%29&_sop=16&_osacat=33034&_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=parker+%28fly%2C+maxxfly%29+-pdf&_sacat=33034
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: CSereday on July 31, 2015, 12:19:05 PM
Practically all of the Maxxflys(I already have a 96 fly deluxe) out there are the radial neck joints. I had one for a bit to vet the Maxxfly shape before getting an 800 series, but I'm only interested in the 800 series currently.

I found a shop this morning that had a new tobacco burst 824, and picked it up for an awesome price. Its a little different(color, pup config,22v24 frets) but at the price I got it at, I'm very happy. So I guess my story ends happy. Kinda of lol
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: Mr303 on July 31, 2015, 06:11:28 PM
Practically all of the Maxxflys(I already have a 96 fly deluxe) out there are the radial neck joints. I had one for a bit to vet the Maxxfly shape before getting an 800 series, but I'm only interested in the 800 series currently.

I found a shop this morning that had a new tobacco burst 824, and picked it up for an awesome price. Its a little different(color, pup config,22v24 frets) but at the price I got it at, I'm very happy. So I guess my story ends happy. Kinda of lol

Cool, those 824's are nice guitars.  Let's see photos maybe?
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: CSereday on August 01, 2015, 07:53:20 AM
(https://reverb-res.cloudinary.com/image/upload/a_exif/v1407361950/nrt39btenzkvhbk17mjq.jpg)
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: Mr303 on August 01, 2015, 02:52:22 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: Patzag on August 01, 2015, 06:31:14 PM
Very!
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: jpleong on August 04, 2015, 04:20:10 PM
Well. Crap. This is not the news I was hoping to find today.

JP
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: Voice Of Reason on August 25, 2015, 01:01:21 PM
This makes me worry about the serviceability of my 98 fly classic in the future. I have owned it for over 8 years.

While I love the guitar, I am at crossroads about what to do with it: sell or get the PTP wiring to extend life.

As for the rest...what if saddle parts or other small parts break? Springs, for instance, can be hard enough to find now, even five years ago. I can't imagine how it will be in 10 years.

The two nearest Parker dealers have never been much helpful. You should have seen how my Fly was set up when it returned from a well-known dealer. It was horrible (buzzing all over). I fixed it myself reading the fly manual and posts on this forum. It feels like it should now. The truth is that very few people know how to service those guitars properly. I had a similar experience with an issue with the older ribbon where I ended up being overcharged for what was a simple loose solder joint (from an official dealer).

It's similar situation to my Ibanez ZR...parts are getting harder to find and will be overpriced even more in a few years. The difference is that getting work done on the Fly would cost more down the line. I would likely have to send the guitar in to someone over the border, which isn't cheap. I'm not rich.

It's people like you guys on this forum that are keeping the original Fly alive. Without it, my mind would have been made up a long time ago.

Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: Notes_Norton on August 25, 2015, 08:33:34 PM
The forum members have been a great help to me as well.

It's a shame that enough guitar players can't see past Gibson, Fender, PRS, and Ibanez to put Parker in a more prominent position in the marketplace.

I feel they are really under-appreciated guitars. If more people would try time, I'm sure they could become a major brand.

I too am concerned about the future of Parker and the serviceability of my guitars. If they break and become irreparable, I don't think I could find something that fits me as well as my Parkers. The light weight, the comfort, the tuning stability, the neck/frets, and the balance are all superb. It's so easy to play, it's almost like cheating.

On guitar forums, sometimes I feel like a one-man Parker salesman. Not for the future of the company, but to share the great thing I found with others. I'm sure I'm not alone in that respect.

I'll just have to take the future when it gets here.

Insights and incites by Notes
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: aleclee on August 25, 2015, 09:19:02 PM
I don't think I could find something that fits me as well as my Parkers. The light weight, the comfort, the tuning stability, the neck/frets, and the balance are all superb. It's so easy to play, it's almost like cheating.
I've started looking at Strandberg as a current production alternatives to check (most of) those blocks.  I probably won't get one 'til I get a chance to lay hands on one (probably at NAMM) but they seem to do a lot of what I look for in a Parker.


Ironically, Strandberg was also affected by the closure of the Washburn Custom Shop.  They're moving their custom shop production back to Sweden.
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: Notes_Norton on August 27, 2015, 10:50:39 AM
I'm not into the headless look.

And for me the function of a headless guitar doesn't work.

I switch between sax, wind synth, flute, guitar and sometimes keys on stage, so having a guitar on a hanging stand is important to me. Sometimes the switch needs to be made in only a few seconds.

I have 2 USA Parkers now, so I just hope they last a long, long time

Notes
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: Big Swifty on September 07, 2015, 06:09:16 PM
I'm not into the headless look.
Oh, i dunno Notes, i think you should try it.

It would certainly give your band a unique look, imagine the marketing potential...

(http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b469/parkergutiarstuff/avatar_4274_1339641007_zpsnysg6zbf.jpg) (http://s1046.photobucket.com/user/parkergutiarstuff/media/avatar_4274_1339641007_zpsnysg6zbf.jpg.html)

 ;)
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: Nefarius on September 08, 2015, 02:30:24 AM
I'm pretty sure that makes it a little harder to play sax... :P

Greetings...
Nef
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: bigboki on September 08, 2015, 06:51:45 AM
I'm pretty sure that makes it a little harder to play sax... :P

Greetings...
Nef

Agree, but it definitely looks unique  ;D
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: Big Swifty on September 08, 2015, 05:34:26 PM
Well, he could just use one of these..

(http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b469/parkergutiarstuff/Toro-Blower_zpsluo40vmu.jpg)
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: Notes_Norton on September 11, 2015, 05:12:50 PM
I'm not into the headless look.
Oh, i dunno Notes, i think you should try it.

It would certainly give your band a unique look, imagine the marketing potential...

(http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b469/parkergutiarstuff/avatar_4274_1339641007_zpsnysg6zbf.jpg) (http://s1046.photobucket.com/user/parkergutiarstuff/media/avatar_4274_1339641007_zpsnysg6zbf.jpg.html)

 ;)

On the other hand, it would eliminate having to trim my beard.

I wouldn't have to hide the bald head under a hat.

But I wouldn't be able to look at the pretty women :(

Notes

Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: stealthtastic on November 02, 2015, 07:31:44 PM
Anyone have updates on when it will be possible to order new Parkers again?  USM has such a godawful marketing department, it is 100% the reason that nobody buys parkers or even knows that the dragonfly/maxxfly are a thing.  They ****ed up managing washburn too. 

I hope USM gets their bolagna together or sells parker to a company like FMIC with a solid track record of managing musical instrument companies.
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: sfw on November 13, 2015, 02:16:40 PM
Sorry to hear about all this. I remember getting a tour of the Parker Factory in Chicago no too long after Terry had taken over production. Great guy and great group of people. The original Fly designs with the complete Carbon Fiber backs were just too expensive and pain in the butt to make. Since they were so expensive to make, you couldn't really price them in a way to make any real money on them. It was a great idea and design that just could stand the reality of the marketplace.

For ongoing maintenance, The Fly's really are not that difficult to work on, just costly as you're competing to find old parts, or new parts are few and far between. It's not hard to rewire them to PTP and it's not that difficult to change over an older fly to new electronics, as long as you're good a soldering. Good luck with your future plans old Parker friends!!!
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: TinMachine on February 04, 2016, 11:07:13 PM
Seems to be some confusion here. The USA custom shop is closed and all their remaining parts have been wholesaled. I do not believe it will be reopened. Just the import stuff from now on. If someone has inside information otherwise,  we'd love to hear it.
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: tildeslash on February 05, 2016, 10:05:39 AM
Parkers should be played till end of your life or end of the guitar's life.
Enjoy them.

If piezo fails - it's still playable.
If ribbon cable issue occurs - any tech can make it PTP and it's still playable.
If spring breaks and you can't find one, make it a hardtail and it's still playable.
The only issue I can see not taking into account out right abuse is frets falling off.
Well if you take care of it - I can easily see this guitar last 100 years.
After that who cares, you enjoyed it.

I feel many people buy guitars to ensure the company is around so they can sell it get some money back down the line for something else.
Nothing wrong with that.
But enjoy the Fly in the moment.

Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: Notes_Norton on February 06, 2016, 08:40:11 PM
I don't buy guitars to resell them, I buy them to gig with.

It's a shame the USA thing isn't working out. I have to DFs and they should last the rest of my life unless something unexpected happens.

Like many of us, I think Parkers are under-appreciated guitars. Fender, Gibson, Ibanez and a few others seem to have the promotion and therefore the market.

I'm glad I got mine when I did.

Notes
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: Bill on February 07, 2016, 08:07:08 AM
We are all just plan lucky to have one (or some). And the only reason we do have one is that an artist wanted to create something special because he was an artist. He thought he could make it into a business except for one thing. He wasn't a business man. As Ken said, he ended up "creating a 10,000 dollar guitar that he couldn't sell for 3000 dollars". His creative drive pushed an unsustainable dream. And we are the benefactors of that mistake. No one is going to make this guitar again. Not on a mass production level.

I doubt these will ever be collectors items. I don't expect to profit on mine. I don't expect any maintenance issues as they are hard tails. I will sell one of mine someday for what I paid for it just because I don't need two. But I will always keep the other. I think we have an obligation to take care of the remaining flies and sell them to someone who appreciates them and wont destroy them.
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: TinMachine on February 07, 2016, 09:50:58 AM
I think they will go up in value since the USA custom shop is closed for good. Can we say the Fly is like the DeLorean?
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: sybersitizen on February 07, 2016, 10:34:05 AM
I think they will go up in value since the USA custom shop is closed for good. Can we say the Fly is like the DeLorean?

Possibly. This guy says those cars are selling for about the same dollar amount as they did when new...

http://www.ebay.com/gds/Buying-a-DeLorean-car-/10000000001738963/g.html

Looks like he's about right, on average...

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=delorean&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc&_trksid=p2045573.m1684

Of course, that means they have lost about 2/3 of their retail value since the early '80s due to inflation.

So, maybe those of us who bought used Flys way below retail will see an actual increase in value in the future. For people who paid new prices - not so much.
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: tildeslash on February 08, 2016, 09:21:58 AM
We just need someone to help manage fret re installation in case they fall off (very rare) but when it does.
Other than that maybe a fret level if the frets wear (very rare) but it'll a long time before that happens outside of abuse.
I suppose not playing with Stainless Steel strings might reduce fret wear all together for the next several decades.
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: jefsummers on February 11, 2016, 07:19:04 PM
You could, but guitar players aren't like car collectors. Give a car collector the options of a 1960 Ford Fairlane or a DeLorean and they (typically) will grab the DeLorean. Give a guitar collector a choice between a 1960 Fender Strat and a Parker Fly Deluxe, they go for the Fender.
Title: Re: Parker closed? EDIT: Parker NOT closed!
Post by: TinMachine on February 11, 2016, 08:36:18 PM
I'm pretty sure shazrock does fret repair. . No?