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Title: Fly Concert Is Here
Post by: uburoibob on June 25, 2007, 09:37:58 PM
Well, I resisted the temptation a week ago to drop an extra $110 and have this overnighted in. It finally arrived after almost a week after winning. I held my breath as I took the case out of the box and opened.

I was...

Drum roll...

Mildly surprised. First, it was a much darker butterscotch than I've seen on other Bronze, Concert, Spanish, Nylon or Artist Flys. I gotta say I LOVE the color. These photos are a little dark, but they capture the color very well.

The guitar was kinda dirty, and it seemed as if the strings had been on since 1997. Anyway, I worked the day away, wishing I could carve out time to set it up. But alas, to no avail.

Finally got it home. Took off the old strings, cleaned the surface up, Maguired the surface up and polished it to perfection. There are still a couple of very shallow scratches on the back - barely noticeable.

Put Elixir NanoWeb Bronze XL strings on (10 - 47). Set the action, straightened the rod, and began playing it. All I can say is...

WOW! I had no idea. I'd messed with the Cedars at NAMM, but never in a controlled setting. This guitar is amazing! The sound and playability is something that I wasn't prepared for at all. I am in love with it.

Here are some pics....

(http://bobmartin1111.com/Concert/P1030771.jpg)
(http://bobmartin1111.com/Concert/P1030776.jpg)
(http://bobmartin1111.com/Concert/P1030782.jpg)
(http://bobmartin1111.com/Concert/P1030784.jpg)
(http://bobmartin1111.com/Concert/P1030786.jpg)
(http://bobmartin1111.com/Concert/P1030793.jpg)
(http://bobmartin1111.com/Concert/P1030797.jpg)
(http://bobmartin1111.com/Concert/P1030810.jpg)
(http://bobmartin1111.com/Concert/P1030813.jpg)
(http://bobmartin1111.com/Concert/P1030821.jpg)
(http://bobmartin1111.com/Concert/P1030824.jpg)

I have included several of the control cavity. As you can see, there is no provision of individual string volume, so I guess that must have been just a rumor. I was a bit surprised by the sparsity of the whole thing. Can anyone else with an older Bronze or a Concert please let me know if this is stock?

Anyway, that's the tour for now!
Bob



1997 Parker Fly Concert (whoa!)  â€¢  1999 Parker Fly Artist Custom Hardtail Butterscotch  â€¢  1998 Fly Classic in Transparent Dark Blue  â€¢  1998 Fly Classic in Cherry Red with DiBurro Roland Mod •  http://bobmartin1111.com
Title: Fly Concert Is Here
Post by: Bill on June 25, 2007, 10:14:51 PM
Wowee

Thats one of the prettiest bronzes I've ever seen ! [:p]

You are a very lucky Bob indeed.

Does it sound like an acoustic or like an Artist on piezo only ?

PS Nice photos and thanks for them [;)]

Custom '03 Hardtail Artist ; Fly Deluxe 2000; Gibson ES137(4sale); 1974 K.Yari DY85; SchecterDisposable; Martin Backpacker/paddle combo;VoxAD30VT;SWR California Blonde
Title: Fly Concert Is Here
Post by: ChicagoKid on June 25, 2007, 10:23:24 PM
Stunning! [:p]



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Title: Fly Concert Is Here
Post by: jamrcat on June 25, 2007, 10:55:57 PM
Drooling here! [:p] Congrats!!!

01' Parker Fly Classic "Natural" w/SD Black Backs (Thanks Jay)
93' Parker Fly Deluxe hardtail RP "Blackie" KP Signature (Thank You! Bob & Ken)
Fender Cyber Twin, Stage 100 Head, Korg AX1500G, D-Tar Mama Bear, and a 2FlyBob (Thanks Paul!)

jamrcat
Butte, Montana
Title: Fly Concert Is Here
Post by: jwrooker on June 26, 2007, 06:13:04 AM
I was hoping that it was a good one because the photos in the listing weren't very good.  Looks like you have a really sweet new addition to the family.  Congratulations!



John
Rochester, NY
* 96 Fly Standard * 98 Fly Classic w/Gen 1's
* 98 Fly Classic w/Gen 2's * 01 Fly Single 2
* 02 NiteFly M w/Virtual PAF's * 03 Fly Mojo W/Pearly Gates
* 05 Southern NiteFly
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Title: Fly Concert Is Here
Post by: JSanta on June 26, 2007, 07:43:13 AM
I love the colour of that Concert Bob!  It looks so beautiful, I hope I get a chance to strum a few chords when I go on leave this winter!


/jim
Title: Fly Concert Is Here
Post by: Tom Anderson on June 26, 2007, 08:18:50 AM
Congratulations, Bob!

'07 Fly Deluxe
Marshall TSL 100
ToneLab SE
Title: Fly Concert Is Here
Post by: 908ssp on June 26, 2007, 08:46:41 AM
Those guitars without humbuckers really bring out the beauty in the Fly shape.
And that warmer finish gives it a very old world vintage aura.
Like on an old violin just class for days. Very nice.[:0]

[^]

Alex

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Title: Fly Concert Is Here
Post by: lespaulreedsmith on June 26, 2007, 09:05:40 AM
wow...[8D][8D][8D]

I'm a loner... a rebel. There's things about me you couldn't know... things about me you SHOULDN'T know...
Title: Fly Concert Is Here
Post by: titanium667 on June 26, 2007, 09:25:22 AM
That's a great find Bob!
The finish is awesome.
I want one.[:p]

I miss my Parker Jazz!
Title: Fly Concert Is Here
Post by: Conflicted on June 26, 2007, 10:59:26 AM
Man - it's like new Fly day around here.  That's a gorgeous guitar - what a find.

Beautiful.
Title: Fly Concert Is Here
Post by: tvadakia on June 26, 2007, 11:18:16 AM
That's just plain sexy!! Classy sexy! You probably wouldn't share...

Unique.
Title: Fly Concert Is Here
Post by: uburoibob on June 26, 2007, 01:15:55 PM
Simon - the tone is different than the Artist on Piezo only. For starters, it's got independent Bass and Treble controls that REALLY make a difference. While I've never put bronze strings on my Artist, you can tell right away that this is a different thing. Perhaps if I can find the time, I will try and record some A/B comparisons under identical circumstances.

The finish: this really surprised me. Next to my Artist it's about 2 or 3 shades darker with more red in the color. I don't think it's got quite as much red as the photos indicate - it plays in real life a bit more like a rust tint to the yellow - Alex nailed it with the violin analogy. Also almost looks as though the spruce was rubbed with something to make the grain a bit more pronounced - there is a noticeable dark tint to the lines in the spruce (see the closup).

Anyway, I agree -  a lucky find and one I am quite glad to have!

Bob

1997 Parker Fly Concert Burnt Butterscotch •  1999 Parker Fly Artist Custom Hardtail Butterscotch  â€¢  1998 Fly Classic in Transparent Dark Blue  â€¢  1998 Fly Classic in Cherry Red with DiBurro Roland Mod •  http://bobmartin1111.com
Title: Fly Concert Is Here
Post by: Yoyo on June 26, 2007, 03:36:46 PM
I agree with Alex about the look without pups. Did I read somewhere that this was what the original concept was? Anyway it's beautiful, that makes four doesn't it, who's got the most flys on the forum?
Title: Fly Concert Is Here
Post by: bno on June 26, 2007, 03:51:40 PM
Absolutely beautiful.  I've come to the personal conclusion that these guitars are the most beautiful guitars of the Fly design.  Clean, elegant, stunning.  I want one.  Congratulations.
Title: Fly Concert Is Here
Post by: uburoibob on June 26, 2007, 04:46:02 PM
I have wanted one for a very long time. And am happy to finally have one! I've heard that this is the closest to what Ken had in mind when he developed the Fly - something sublime and straight forward. Gotta say it again -  I LOVE this guitar!

Bob

1997 Parker Fly Concert Burnt Butterscotch  â€¢  1999 Parker Fly Artist Custom Hardtail Butterscotch  â€¢  1998 Fly Classic in Transparent Dark Blue  â€¢  1998 Fly Classic in Cherry Red with DiBurro Roland Mod •  http://bobmartin1111.com
Title: Fly Concert Is Here
Post by: cy2989 on June 26, 2007, 06:40:27 PM
Bob,

It's a beauty, that's for sure!  One thing I like about your Bronze that I would change if I could about mine is the color of the metal saddles.  I'm not partial to the gold colored saddles on my Bronze.  It's the only thing that I'm not found of on my Cedar and wish they were silver.  But they really play and sound like nothing else.  Congrats!!!



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Title: Fly Concert Is Here
Post by: Lwinn171 on June 26, 2007, 06:48:54 PM
Bob,
What a great catch! The color is incredible! As Alex said, like an old violin... What a classy looking guitar! All that room in the cavity makes me wonder what you could do, mod-wise. But then again, maybe somethings are too perfect as they are to mess with! I'm very happy for you. Enjoy...

(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k161/dlwinn171/01fly_edited.jpg)
Lawrence Winn
You can hear me playing and see my woodworks at:
http://www.myspace.com/132917993
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2001 Fly Classic, Green
Larivee Parlour Guitar
Several inferior others
Mesa Boogie MK IV
Marshall 2-12 cab
Title: Fly Concert Is Here
Post by: sfw on June 26, 2007, 08:09:31 PM
That is one of the most beautiful sites I've seen. WOW! Very nice.

- Scott

Fly Artist (purchase fund started)
NiteFly '97
P6; PM10; PM20; Franken-Fenders
Wiggles Murray, Barbie Electric w/matching mic, American Idol electric, Pink Hello Kitty
Title: Fly Concert Is Here
Post by: mmmmgtr on June 26, 2007, 09:25:47 PM
That there girl is perrrty!

[^]


quote:
Originally posted by uburoibob

Well, I resisted the temptation a week ago to drop an extra $110 and have this overnighted in. It finally arrived after almost a week after winning. I held my breath as I took the case out of the box and opened.

I was...

Drum roll...

Mildly surprised. First, it was a much darker butterscotch than I've seen on other Bronze, Concert, Spanish, Nylon or Artist Flys. I gotta say I LOVE the color. These photos are a little dark, but they capture the color very well.

The guitar was kinda dirty, and it seemed as if the strings had been on since 1997. Anyway, I worked the day away, wishing I could carve out time to set it up. But alas, to no avail.

Finally got it home. Took off the old strings, cleaned the surface up, Maguired the surface up and polished it to perfection. There are still a couple of very shallow scratches on the back - barely noticeable.

Put Elixir NanoWeb Bronze XL strings on (10 - 47). Set the action, straightened the rod, and began playing it. All I can say is...

WOW! I had no idea. I'd messed with the Cedars at NAMM, but never in a controlled setting. This guitar is amazing! The sound and playability is something that I wasn't prepared for at all. I am in love with it.

Here are some pics....

(http://bobmartin1111.com/Concert/P1030771.jpg)
(http://bobmartin1111.com/Concert/P1030776.jpg)
(http://bobmartin1111.com/Concert/P1030782.jpg)
(http://bobmartin1111.com/Concert/P1030784.jpg)
(http://bobmartin1111.com/Concert/P1030786.jpg)
(http://bobmartin1111.com/Concert/P1030793.jpg)
(http://bobmartin1111.com/Concert/P1030797.jpg)
(http://bobmartin1111.com/Concert/P1030810.jpg)
(http://bobmartin1111.com/Concert/P1030813.jpg)
(http://bobmartin1111.com/Concert/P1030821.jpg)
(http://bobmartin1111.com/Concert/P1030824.jpg)

I have included several of the control cavity. As you can see, there is no provision of individual string volume, so I guess that must have been just a rumor. I was a bit surprised by the sparsity of the whole thing. Can anyone else with an older Bronze or a Concert please let me know if this is stock?

Anyway, that's the tour for now!
Bob



1997 Parker Fly Concert (whoa!)  â€¢  1999 Parker Fly Artist Custom Hardtail Butterscotch  â€¢  1998 Fly Classic in Transparent Dark Blue  â€¢  1998 Fly Classic in Cherry Red with DiBurro Roland Mod •  http://bobmartin1111.com

Title: Fly Concert Is Here
Post by: uburoibob on June 26, 2007, 10:25:54 PM
I ordered knobs from Jerome for this, tonight. Also got a set to go with the flat ebony knob on my Artist. Should look very cool with the special one the Ken made for Bill Frisell, as well as on this Concert. Can't wait for them!

mmmmguitar, thanks. She sure is purty. Hey, can I ask a favor? Could you please alter your post to get rid of the quote of my photos again? There's a lot of them, and they make this thread tough to get through. Sorry to bug about that...

Bob

1997 Parker Fly Concert Burnt Butterscotch  â€¢  1999 Parker Fly Artist Custom Hardtail Butterscotch  â€¢  1998 Fly Classic in Transparent Dark Blue  â€¢  1998 Fly Classic in Cherry Red with DiBurro Roland Mod •  http://bobmartin1111.com
Title: Fly Concert Is Here
Post by: TomL on June 27, 2007, 01:32:00 AM
wow. it's absolutely beautiful, Bob. can't wait to see (and hear) it in person. I WANT ONE TOO!!!...T

Tom

98 Fly Classic Trans Red
05 Fly Deluxe Dusty Black
71 Gibson ES-345 Walnut
62 Gibson SG/LesPaul
?? Epiphone Dreadnaught
63 Stella Acoustic (my 1st guitar)
Danelectro Electric "Baby" Sitar
Ibanez AEG1ONE Nylon
Hohner GT3

'82 Mesa Boogie Mark II w/SRO 12"
'81 Mesa Boogie Mark II w/SRO 12"
'65 Fender Bassman head in 1-12" custom cab
   
Those who can, do. Those who cannot, usually run the monitor mix.

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Title: Fly Concert Is Here
Post by: portnoy on June 27, 2007, 06:38:08 PM
hey bob, That is one hell of a sexy fly concert you've got yourself there. i really like the dark colour of it. has it, how does it sound? i was looking at the prices onthe Bronze fly's the other day. they are so tempting. Infact all parkers are[:D]

Kavan,

07' Fly deluxe - ice blue burst
Marshall Vintage modern 100w head + 4x12 cabinet
Orange tiny terror 15/7w
Title: Fly Concert Is Here
Post by: uburoibob on June 27, 2007, 10:34:50 PM
I used the Concert at my gig tonight and it was great. I used it with the Jumbo Acoustic Variax preset on my PodXT Live and also through my Korg Pandora PX4A. I know that I've been really pushing the PX4A, but I can't imagine anything more compact or cost effective for making a Fly of any style sound like a variety of great acoustic guitars.

Anyway, I love this guitar even more after using it live.

Bob

1997 Parker Fly Concert Burnt Butterscotch  â€¢  1999 Parker Fly Artist Custom Hardtail Butterscotch  â€¢  1998 Fly Classic in Transparent Dark Blue  â€¢  1998 Fly Classic in Cherry Red with DiBurro Roland Mod •  http://bobmartin1111.com
Title: Fly Concert Is Here
Post by: Bill on June 28, 2007, 06:59:13 AM

Have you tried the PX4D ?

Do you still ever use the Moma Bear ?

Custom '03 Hardtail Artist ; Fly Deluxe 2000; Gibson ES137(4sale); 1974 K.Yari DY85; SchecterDisposable; Martin Backpacker/paddle combo;VoxAD30VT;SWR California Blonde
Title: Fly Concert Is Here
Post by: uburoibob on June 28, 2007, 07:26:03 AM
I never had the Mamma Bear. That was John Rooker, but he sold it. I am open to trying any cool stuff. I have the PX4, which is the 4D before it was expanded. I like it, but hated the presets, so I made my own and it's a very cool practice device. Just plug my iPod into the Aux in, and then I am right there, mixed into whichever performance I choose. Great practice rig. Same the the 4A. I tried the Mamma Bear with their setup at NAMM and it was very, very cool. But I think for what I am doing, and where an acoustic guitar fits into my live performances, the little Korg is just fine. John was wondering how the Zoom A2 sounds. I'd like to try that, too.

Bob

1997 Parker Fly Concert Burnt Butterscotch  â€¢  1999 Parker Fly Artist Custom Hardtail Butterscotch  â€¢  1998 Fly Classic in Transparent Dark Blue  â€¢  1998 Fly Classic in Cherry Red with DiBurro Roland Mod •  http://bobmartin1111.com
Title: Fly Concert Is Here
Post by: uburoibob on June 28, 2007, 07:28:33 AM
You know, this all makes me wonder what a set of DR Zebra stings would sound like on the Artist, and perhaps I will give that a try. Zebras have every other winding bronze and nickel so they are supposed to have a good acoustic sound, but still get picked up by the mags. It'd be an interesting test that perhaps I will give a try over the weekend. Does anyone besides DR make such a beast? (pun intended)

Bob

1997 Parker Fly Concert Burnt Butterscotch  â€¢  1999 Parker Fly Artist Custom Hardtail Butterscotch  â€¢  1998 Fly Classic in Transparent Dark Blue  â€¢  1998 Fly Classic in Cherry Red with DiBurro Roland Mod •  http://bobmartin1111.com
Title: Fly Concert Is Here
Post by: jwrooker on June 28, 2007, 07:32:30 AM
Here's why I sold my MamaBear..  First, I never used it with a guitar like the Bronze and the current owner uses it with a Bronze and is very happy. What I never got used to with the MamaBear was a seeming lack or brilliance.  That presence that only an acoustic has.  The MamaBear was impressive in its abilities but would never fool me into thinking I was listening to a good acoustic simply because of the lack of upper end harmonics or presence.  I don't know if I'm explaining that correctly or not, but at the price, I feel the MamaBear could and should do better than it does.  

Just my opinion.



John
Rochester, NY
* 96 Fly Standard * 98 Fly Classic w/Gen 1's
* 98 Fly Classic w/Gen 2's * 01 Fly Single 2
* 02 NiteFly M w/Virtual PAF's * 03 Fly Mojo W/Pearly Gates
* 05 Southern NiteFly
Parker Chat: http://www.jwrooker.com/mychat
Title: Fly Concert Is Here
Post by: cy2989 on June 28, 2007, 08:35:47 AM
Hey John,

You're right...I love the MamaBear (Thanks John).  I do use it with other effects that put that sparkle and presence in.  What I love about the MB is that it takes that "piezo" sound that all saddle pickup guitars have, whether they are high end like ours or not and changes it into something more natural sounding.  Not necessarily "acoustic" sounding but more like the transducer is somewhere in the air instead of under that saddle.  I'm getting a great sound with my rig and the Bronze.  Having said that, I'm going to try one of the new Aura pedals.  They come in five different configurations for the type of guitar you are using.  They have one for nylon. The MB doesn't have a nylon guitar setting.  I'll report back in a few weeks to let you know.

Title: Fly Concert Is Here
Post by: jfdana on June 28, 2007, 09:43:13 AM
Hi Bob, The color of the top is beautiful. Since spruce darkens over time with exposure to sunlight, my guess is that yours spent some time on a stand in a sunny room.

I find that my Bronze sounds great, w/o effects, played through an AER. Plenty of high "shimmer."

I looked at the nylon Aura pedal, but for some reason Fishman chose odd guitars to sample. Why not use really great concert classics vs. factory guitars?

John
Title: Fly Concert Is Here
Post by: Andi on June 28, 2007, 01:41:56 PM
Ye gods - that's gorgeous. Absolutely lovely!
Title: Fly Concert Is Here
Post by: cy2989 on June 28, 2007, 01:58:57 PM
John,

I know what you are saying but listen to the improvement the Aura has over this Ramirez.  http://fishmanaura.com/learn/seth_video2.asp?type=2
It really eliminates that "piezo" rubber band sound and produces a rounder, more acoustic sound, IMO.  I don't know what effect it will have on the Nylon Fly but it certainly interesting and worth a try.

UPDATE: Here is a little sound clip of my Cedar Bronze. Please keep in mind I'm not the player that most of you are.  It's just a few measures that I literally put together in about 20 mins.  It's got the new Ren bass too.

www.chrisyoungphotography.com/tmp/Bronzedemomix.mp3
Title: Fly Concert Is Here
Post by: uburoibob on June 29, 2007, 02:36:32 PM
Chris, that's a very nice piece. I think you play great. Your timing, control and voicings are all just wonderful.

Bob

1997 Parker Fly Concert Burnt Butterscotch  â€¢  1999 Parker Fly Artist Custom Hardtail Butterscotch  â€¢  1998 Fly Classic in Transparent Dark Blue  â€¢  1998 Fly Classic in Cherry Red with DiBurro Roland Mod •  http://bobmartin1111.com
Title: Fly Concert Is Here
Post by: jamrcat on June 29, 2007, 04:01:16 PM
I want to chime in here and just add my 2¢! I'm a Mama Bear fan as most know here. I discovered by accident how good a Mama Bear is by listening to it's output through a set of Sennheiser headphones. What I discovered specifically was this: My amp rigging changed the sound and tone of the  MB's output dramatically (in a poor way). When I ran it directly through a crown amp and out a JBL 15" & horn cabinet with not much processing I got a great natural sound from it. Thus my search for the perfect amp rig began. I've gone to much more trouble than most, but what I heard in those headphones is what I want on stage. IMHO [^] I'm almost there, when I have exactly what I'm looking for it will be posted here on the forum complete with pic's! [:D] Not to highjack the thread, so let me say again, that is one incredible Fly Concert!!! Your a blessed man Bob...but you knew that! [;)]

01' Parker Fly Classic "Natural" w/SD Black Backs (Thanks Jay)
93' Parker Fly Deluxe hardtail RP "Blackie" KP Signature (Thank You! Bob & Ken)
Fender Cyber Twin, Stage 100 Head, Korg AX1500G, D-Tar Mama Bear, and a 2FlyBob (Thanks Paul!)

jamrcat
Butte, Montana
Title: Fly Concert Is Here
Post by: jamrcat on June 29, 2007, 06:03:22 PM
Chris, I just had a little time to listen to your piece - and your too modest! I really enjoyed your playing, you have a great touch and I loved how your Fly sang like a sweet bird! [:p]

01' Parker Fly Classic "Natural" w/SD Black Backs (Thanks Jay)
93' Parker Fly Deluxe hardtail RP "Blackie" KP Signature (Thank You! Bob & Ken)
Fender Cyber Twin, Stage 100 Head, Korg AX1500G, D-Tar Mama Bear, and a 2FlyBob (Thanks Paul!)

jamrcat
Butte, Montana
Title: Fly Concert Is Here
Post by: catfish on July 27, 2007, 09:05:06 PM
Bob, Congratulations!  I love my Bronze.  It sounds spectacular, something like an acoustic guitar but unique too.  In the photos, yours looks more orange/red than mine, which is more of a butterscotch.  I really like the color of yours.  theCatfish
Title: Fly Concert Is Here
Post by: uburoibob on July 27, 2007, 09:25:21 PM
Hey Mike,

THANKS! I really love this guitar. Been playing it non-stop. Yeah, I was surprise by the color too - kind of a burnt butterscotch - looking at the photos, I think part of the color was the outdoor light and the saturation. The guitar isn't quite that red/orange, but it is much warmer and darker than my buttercotch Artist.

Sound is amazing by itself, but with the Zoom A2.1U (or A2) it's AMAZING. I tweaked some of the sounds and posted a full demo here that you should check out. Best extra $99 you'll spend on your guitar this year.

Here's the link. Let me know what you think.  

http://forums.parkerguitars.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5258&whichpage=1

Bob

1997 Parker Fly Concert Burnt Butterscotch  â€¢  1999 Parker Fly Artist Custom Hardtail Butterscotch  â€¢  1998 Fly Classic in Transparent Dark Blue  â€¢  1998 Fly Classic in Cherry Red with DiBurro Roland Mod •  http://bobmartin1111.com