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Parker Models => FLY GUITARS => Topic started by: justwatching on April 03, 2008, 08:17:50 AM

Title: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: justwatching on April 03, 2008, 08:17:50 AM
You will probably find more helpful information here:
http://www.parkerguitars.com/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=24

But this thread might also help.

Hope this helps new and old users alike.

carpe vola
Title: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: justwatching on April 03, 2008, 08:28:27 AM
Contributed (from another thread) by Laughinglarry:
http://forums.parkerguitars.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7106
This is probably one of the most frequently asked questions.
Differences in Refined and Pre-Refined Fly's.
PRE-REFINED

Controls: Master Volume, Mag volume, Mag tone, Piezo volume, Piezo tone (concentrically stacked).
Trem wheel: that's the part that sticks through the front of the guitar; it's used to determine spring force, and sets the MODE of use (fixed, bend-down only, or floating). Acts as a "Master Tuning Knob" (so when you switch from down-only to floating the guitar stays in tune).
3-way switch: Neck/ INSIDE COIL of neck and bridge (approximates a single-coil sound supposedly)/ Bridge
MODE Switch: Selects between down-only trem mode and floating. Easily accessible, but many have found they've needed to TAPE it in the down-only position. (It can get bumped while playing.)
OUTPUT JACK: Stereo output, with a tiny red switch that allows you to select true stereo output (mag to tip, piezo to ring) or summed output (for using a single amp and getting both piezo and mag through a mono cable)
WIRING: Pre-refined used a Fishman preamp that's wired with a ribbon cable. The preamp and cable are no longer available, so if the preamp dumps, the standard workaround is to rewire point-to-point. Pre-refined Flys also have a battery indicator light on the back: it will light when a cable is inserted. If it starts glowing during use, the battery is low, and should be changed.

REFINED
Controls: Mag volume, mag tone, piezo volume, coil-tap (push/pull pot)
3-Way switch: Neck/ both/ bridge
Trem wheel: doesn't stick through the front - need a tool (I think) to adjust
MODE Switch: internal - needs a tool to change modes, but cannot get dislodged during play like the pre-refined.
OUTPUT Jack: Smart Switch - if you're using a stereo cable, you get stereo (mag/piezo) output. If you're using a mono cable, you get blended output.
WIRING: Point-to-point - more serviceable than the ribbon.

"Refining" occured in 2003, US Music's acquisition was in 2004.


carpe vola
Title: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: mountaindewaddict on April 03, 2008, 10:51:11 AM
Thanks, Jeff and Larry, this is really helpful stuff!  It answers all the questions I had regarding the differences between the two "kinds" of Flys.  Good stuff.

Casey

Gear:
Parker P-44, Digitech GNX4, other stuff...
"Remember, if at first you don't succeed, you're doing it wrong."
God Bless!
Title: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: laughinglarry on April 03, 2008, 12:31:25 PM
One small addition to my previous post: The trem arm also changed from a haxagonal steel to a round steel bar (both still have the nice little foam tip though [;)]).

Larry

2000 Fly Deluxe Single 2, '97 Fly Deluxe (with GK-2A), '07 Steinberger GM-7TA, '04 Steinberger GLB-2S, '89 Strat Plus, '92 Les Paul Custom, Ibanez Silver Series (Strat), Epiphone Dot, '65 Mustang, Yamaha BB3000AF, Peavey Foundation, Hamer Cruisebass
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Title: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: Bill on April 03, 2008, 06:46:40 PM
Pupthology:

Gen 1 Dimarzio's are great if you like them.(Slightly cleaner than 2)
Gen 2's are great if you like them. (slightly higher output than 1)
Seymor Duncan's are great if you like them. (available only in Mojo)

Gen. 1 Fly pups were used from 1993 through March of 1999. They had the original DiMarzio pickups, which were based on the Air Norton for the neck position and the Tone Zone for the bridge position. These are identified by a non italisized "block lettered" DiMarzio logo, which is 3/8" long.


Gen 2 Flys pups have been used since April of 1999. They are DiMarzio's newer Parker Fly Custom Neck #PHWP1, and Parker Fly Custom Bridge #PHWP2. These are identified by a slanted italisized DiMarzio logo, which is 5/8" long.


-Because Fly pup cavities are unique (small and shallow), modifications will be required to install most non factory pups.

-The Mojo pup cavity is factory milled larger than the other model Flys to accomadate the Duncans.

-Because of the rigidity and light weight of the Fly, a particular pup that you have heard in a traditional guitar will sound different in a Fly (probably brighter).

An easier way to modify your tone if you want to try something different is to simply send your stock pups back to either Dimarzio or Seymour Duncan (no matter which one made them) and they will rewind your coil/mag according to the tone you seek at a very reasonable cost. That way they will fit back in your guitar without the hassle of cavity or pup surgery.




Add any useful pup info links here:
http://www.guitar.com.au/pickups/dimarzio/humbukers/parker_f_n.html
http://www.guitar.com.au/pickups/dimarzio/humbukers/parker_f_b.html


If you think its broken, change your battery.

If you are sure its broken, CHANGE YOUR BATTERY.



No, you can't play one before you buy one. Just buy it. The model doesn't matter because you will be buying them all eventually anyway.

Hope that helps[;)]

FAQ:
http://forums.parkerguitars.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3502&SearchTerms=FAQ




A few Flys in my soup
Title: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: mattyn on April 06, 2008, 02:20:16 PM
Serial Numbers: Here, I think, is most of the info you'll need to date/identify a Parker Fly:

PRIOR TO 2003: Flys will have the six digit code. The first three digits are the day of the year, the next two are the number in that days production, and the last digit is the year.

2003 - 2006: Both 6 & 7 digit numbers were reportedly used. The first three digits are the day of the year, the next two are the number in that days production, and the last digit (or two digits) designate the year. Any doubts regarding the year of manufacture during this period can be cured by a quick examination of the control layout. If it is a "Refined Fly" (see above) it is 2003 or later.

AFTER 2006: Flys changed to a P followed by a seven digit code. The first two digits are the year, the next two are the number of the month, the next two are the number of the day it was completed, and the last number is that days production number.

The following abbreviations for wood used on the guitar in question (included at the end of serial numbers before 2006, placed elsewhere on the headstock after 2006) should help w/ identification of the model. Neck wood is always listed first.

B = Basswood
R = Redwood
P = Poplar
C = Cedar
MH = Mahogany
MA = Maple
SP = Sitka Spruce
SS = Sitka Spruce (yes, the code was changed)
BN = Butternut
MM = Mahogany neck and body (Mojo)
Title: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: portnoy on April 06, 2008, 08:33:03 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Bill



No, you can't play one before you buy one. Just buy it. The model doesn't matter because you will be buying them all eventually anyway.

Hope that helps[;)]

A few Flys in my soup



this is true [:D]




00' Nitefly M - natural
07' ice blue burst deluxe
08' schecter jeff loomis-7 on order
06' caparison applehorn (in for warranty)
05' ibanez DMM1
01' gibson gothic explorer
Marshall vintage modern half stack, Orange tiny terror, blackstar pedals, fly funds still going!

http://improvisingguitarists.ning.com/profile/Kavanprice
Title: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: justwatching on April 07, 2008, 08:26:19 AM
Wiring for Pre-refined.
From forum member Jwrooker
http://forums.parkerguitars.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7158

(http://www.jwrooker.com/images/parkerforum/ParkerSchematic.jpg)


More detailed PDF:

http://www.jwrooker.com/images/parkerforum/ParkerSchematic.pdf


carpe vola
Title: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: laughinglarry on April 16, 2008, 08:26:17 AM
One of the frequently asked questions that I've seen:

"My Volume knob gets turned down easily when I play.  Is there a way to 'tighten' the knob so that it's harder to turn?"

The answer is YES - you can do it easily with O-Rings.  This will work with factory or aftermarket knobs, though the size may vary depending on YOUR knobs.  I used #47 (11/32" OD X 7/32" ID) and #78 (7/16" OD X 1/4" ID) O-rings from a hardware store - one of the knobs needed one of each, the other just the #78 (this is on a guitar with ALLPARTS Knurled Dome knobs).  On my stock knobs a single #78 works fine.

The O-Ring makes contact with the nut that holds the pot in place, not with the guitar body itself, so there's no need to worry about any damage to the guitars finish.

Larry

2000 Fly Deluxe Single 2, '97 Fly Deluxe (with GK-2A), '07 Steinberger GM-7TA, '04 Steinberger GLB-2S, '89 Strat Plus, '92 Les Paul Custom, Ibanez Silver Series (Strat), Epiphone Dot, '65 Mustang, Yamaha BB3000AF, Peavey Foundation, Hamer Cruisebass
http://www.myspace.com/larrysmithmusic
www.myspace.com/karmagenerator
Title: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: Bill on April 20, 2008, 11:32:50 PM
This is a site for those interested in Parkers to help one another learn, share opinions, and occasionally entertain.

This site is owned by Parker, but it is not for customer service. It is not routinely monitored by USM. There are no paid posters here. Please do not expect anyone from USM to hear you on the forum and magically solve your problem. If you need that kind of intervention, call Parker's customer service dept directly.

Politeness and mutual respect are expected and are the norm here. Don't be a shy lurker because everyone is welcome. Its a great forum. It was created for YOU.

A few Flys in my soup
Title: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: bostjan on May 02, 2008, 05:25:39 PM
I've been wondering for a long time now...

Which grade of stainless is used for the tangless frets on Flys?
Title: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: Eruption on May 05, 2008, 02:03:43 PM
I have a question. Do they still make the Fly Mojo SC in Dusty Black?

'07 Fly Deluxe-Dusty Black
'07 Peavey ValveKing 1x12
"There can be no any without one"-Will Hansen
Title: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: TREVORT on May 05, 2008, 02:48:40 PM
Eruption,

I called them for you and I was told yes they still make the Dusty Black on these.
List is $3100.00 US, map is $2300.00. Your millage may very of course.
Sorry for nosing around but, I love a happy ending!I don't work for Parker.But, if they want to compensate I take 3%....Kidding..
That and I'm home watching the 3 month old. So, I've got time on my hands.
Good luck!
TT
Title: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: Eruption on May 05, 2008, 03:10:29 PM
thats great dude! thanks!

'07 Fly Deluxe-Dusty Black
'07 Peavey ValveKing 1x12
"There can be no any without one"-Will Hansen
Title: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: Bill on May 12, 2008, 08:07:44 PM
Well there goes the FAQ thread again.

We have tried this numerous times:

http://forums.parkerguitars.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3489&SearchTerms=FAQ

http://forums.parkerguitars.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3968&SearchTerms=FAQ


Anyway, I hope that Jeff(justwatching) will get with Bill(the forum computer guy--not me ) and establish a thread heading of "FAQ" to consolidate this stuff into once and for all.

I would lock it so no one but moderator could make a post. Forum members with a FAQ contribution suggestion could email the moderator and make a recommendation. The moderator could choose whether it was germaine to the FAQ and important enough to add or not.

This thread is destined to be lost because of the obscureish tittle anyway. It took me awhile to find it again and I knew it existed.


A few Flys in my soup
Title: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: ckyvick on June 28, 2008, 01:28:13 AM
i would like to know how much weight a parker could support if you put it on two chairs...basically how many lbs of force would make it snap??? since its a guitar you can stand on i think this would be an important test.
Title: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: jwrooker on June 28, 2008, 07:38:21 AM
quote:
Originally posted by ckyvick

i would like to know how much weight a parker could support if you put it on two chairs...basically how many lbs of force would make it snap??? since its a guitar you can stand on i think this would be an important test.



Circus tricks like that are really stupid.  If you put a Fly between two chairs and stood on it, you'd be out of a guitar and deservedly so.  I don't care if Steinberger did that, because it proves absolutely nothing.   Put a Stradivarius violin between two chairs and stand on it and you're out a few million dollars.

Now, own a Parker Fly through an entire year of weather changes, rides to and from gigs bouncing around in a car and find out that each time you get the guitar out to play..it is still in freakin' tune!  Try that with a G***** or a F***** and see how many times you are tuning and retuning.  

Sorry, I'm not venting on you, but this is just another example of how consumers get suckered in by some silly circus tricks and we use that as a standard by which we evaluate the quality of things.


John

98 Fly Classic w/ Gen 1's - 98 Fly Classic w/ VPAF's
99 Fly Deluxe w/Gen 1's - 01 Fly Single 2
03 Fly Mojo w/ Pearly Gates - 02 NiteFly M w/ VPAFS & GK3
05 Southern NiteFly - Roland VG-99 & GR-20
Title: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: Strandwolf on June 28, 2008, 12:17:43 PM
quote:
Originally posted by mattyn

Serial Numbers: Here, I think, is most of the info you'll need to date/identify a Parker Fly:

PRIOR TO 2003: Flys will have the six digit code. The first three digits are the day of the year, the next two are the number in that days production, and the last digit is the year.

2003 - 2006: Both 6 & 7 digit numbers were reportedly used. The first three digits are the day of the year, the next two are the number in that days production, and the last digit (or two digits) designate the year. Any doubts regarding the year of manufacture during this period can be cured by a quick examination of the control layout. If it is a "Refined Fly" (see above) it is 2003 or later.

AFTER 2006: Flys changed to a P followed by a seven digit code. The first two digits are the year, the next two are the number of the month, the next two are the number of the day it was completed, and the last number is that days production number.



Ambiguosity detected. All in all highly informative and appreciated, but just to clarify, final number is not the number of Flys produced on that date, but the individual, unique number assigned to the particular guitar, i. e., making the whole number sequence a serial number identifying that guitar. Thought so...otherwise....
Title: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: ckyvick on July 06, 2008, 01:59:23 AM
quote:
Originally posted by jwrooker

quote:
Originally posted by ckyvick

i would like to know how much weight a parker could support if you put it on two chairs...basically how many lbs of force would make it snap??? since its a guitar you can stand on i think this would be an important test.



Circus tricks like that are really stupid.  If you put a Fly between two chairs and stood on it, you'd be out of a guitar and deservedly so.  I don't care if Steinberger did that, because it proves absolutely nothing.   Put a Stradivarius violin between two chairs and stand on it and you're out a few million dollars.

Now, own a Parker Fly through an entire year of weather changes, rides to and from gigs bouncing around in a car and find out that each time you get the guitar out to play..it is still in freakin' tune!  Try that with a G***** or a F***** and see how many times you are tuning and retuning.  

Sorry, I'm not venting on you, but this is just another example of how consumers get suckered in by some silly circus tricks and we use that as a standard by which we evaluate the quality of things.


John

98 Fly Classic w/ Gen 1's - 98 Fly Classic w/ VPAF's
99 Fly Deluxe w/Gen 1's - 01 Fly Single 2
03 Fly Mojo w/ Pearly Gates - 02 NiteFly M w/ VPAFS & GK3
05 Southern NiteFly - Roland VG-99 & GR-20



yeah its gimmicky but in my defence i heard that was ken parkers advertisement when he first started out... he put it on two guitars and was standing on it...
Title: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: laughinglarry on July 06, 2008, 07:13:05 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Wilmington only

If you hold a fly by the headstock and hit the butt end on the floor face-down it will break. If you try to do it face-up your going to hurt yourself.

There's no money above the fifth fret


That's Mick Donner, former production manager for Parker Guitars.  They are incredibly strong, but not that strong.

If you're referring to the quote by the Dimbag wannabe from the Premier Video tour, he's simply wrong.  (He also calls the Mojo a Maple TOP, whereas it's a veneer.)  It never happened.  That was (and still IS) a Ned Steinberger trick.  This was all discussed in response to the Premier Video:
http://forums.parkerguitars.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7361

Ken Parker may well be able to break even a Steinberger by standing on it.  I'm 6'3" and weigh 220; he's about the same size.  From what I understand, Ned is tiny in comparison.

[:)]

Larry

2000 Fly Deluxe Single 2, 2000 Fly Stealth, '97 Fly Deluxe (with GK-2A), '07 Steinberger GM-7TA, '89 Strat Plus, '92 Les Paul Custom, Ibanez Silver Series (Strat), Epiphone Dot, '65 Mustang, Yamaha BB3000AF, Peavey Foundation, Hamer Cruisebass
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Title: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: rickgk on August 18, 2008, 01:44:00 AM
Actually i remember when the parkers first came out there was a television show here in australia called beyond 2000 which was about new technology inventions etc (i think i was 16 or 17 at the time), the parker was featured on it, and in the segment ken parker did actually put the fly between two chairs and stand on it, i remember it vividly, i had it on vhs for a few years and lost it in one of my house moves since, i just wish i still had it, it would be on youtube by now.
Title: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: 908ssp on August 18, 2008, 07:30:41 AM
quote:
Originally posted by rickgk

Actually i remember when the parkers first came out there was a television show here in australia called beyond 2000 which was about new technology inventions etc (i think i was 16 or 17 at the time), the parker was featured on it, and in the segment ken parker did actually put the fly between two chairs and stand on it, i remember it vividly, i had it on vhs for a few years and lost it in one of my house moves since, i just wish i still had it, it would be on youtube by now.




I have that show on DVD sorry you remember incorrectly.[;)]

Alex

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Title: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: rickgk on August 20, 2008, 11:10:20 PM
I really want to see that again. I am going to hunt it down, i am sure I am right.
Title: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: Guitarman on September 03, 2008, 08:30:21 PM
There isa an easy solution to this topic...Call Ken Parker and ask him...
Peace!

female menopause: hot flashes and passing out,gaining weight
Male menopause: faster cars, younger women, expensive guitars
Peace!
Chuck
Title: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: Strandwolf on September 04, 2008, 01:45:13 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Guitarman

female menopause: hot flashes and passing out,gaining weight
Male menopause: faster cars, younger women, expensive guitars



Gee, when hitting the ripe old age of 30 it seems I endured all the symptoms of ah full force male menopause.
Title: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: uburoibob on September 04, 2008, 09:17:38 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Guitarman

There isa an easy solution to this topic...Call Ken Parker and ask him...
Peace!

Chuck



Ken really isn't the answer here. Parker Guitars is someone else now. Ken has moved on.

Bob

2001 Parker Fly Single 2 Silver  â€¢ 1997 Parker Fly Concert Burnt Butterscotch  â€¢  1999 Parker Fly Artist Custom Hardtail Butterscotch  â€¢  1998 Fly Classic in Transparent Dark Blue  â€¢  1998 Fly Classic in Cherry Red with DiBurro Roland Mod •  http://bobmartin1111.com
Title: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: 21st Century Schizoid Man on September 09, 2008, 03:37:28 AM
quote:
Originally posted by bostjan

I've been wondering for a long time now...

Which grade of stainless is used for the tangless frets on Flys?



Work-hardened 302 stainless steel (per the dealer fret repair .pdf that appeared on this forum a year or so ago)
Title: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: alexgalang on March 27, 2010, 06:21:18 AM
hey guys! I'm new with the forum so I could use some help if anything has been done wrong....I am an owner of a '98 fly,a beautiful guitar,but when I purchased it last year I didn't know a lot about old parkers so I tuned it accidentally when in was set in the floyd-rose...what do I do?I haven't managed to receive any help, so please tell me what to do.thank you so much
Title: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: RustyRob on January 26, 2011, 04:53:55 PM
Bumping this because I have the same problem, previous owner tuned it in free mode. I read everywhere you should NEVER do this, but I have not found an explanation as to why?

Only thing I can think of is that the spring wil get different tension on left and right, but you should be able to 'reset' the problem by reinserting the spring or using a new spring, no?

Title: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: ekornbakke on January 26, 2011, 05:29:10 PM
No no, dont`t worry! If you are used to floating systems, just tune the guitar however you like, but keep in mind that the spring should have a reasonable tension. The point of "always" using the step-stop is twofold:
Firstly, it makes sure that the tension of the spring ends up exactly in the standard "home position" that the designers of the guitar intended. (Not too loose, and not to tight. Also, engaging the step-stop with this "correct" tension of the spring, perfectly makes it a "bend-down only mode" bridge.

Secondly, people that are not used to floating systems would quickly run into problems getting the guitar in tune if they just go about tuning the strings as if it was a standard"hard tail" bridge. Of course, this applies to any floating system.

Personally, I think the manual is too rigid when talking about this. However, it is probably an easy precaution to just tell people to do it this way and avoid further problems. You don`t "have to" do it this way, and changing the tension of the spring a little in either direction is also ok, as long as it doesn`t go WAY to far!

On one of my Flys I actually decided that I wanted to use a different tension on the spring, changing the "home-position" altogether. So on that guitar the step-stop doesn`t even "work", if you see my point. I simply loosened the spring to get more upwards movement on the vibrato-bridge. Ok, so here comes the warning: as indicated above, TO MUCH of this could be harmful, as it the spring could pop out if it gets to loose. And vice versa, tightening it TOO MUCH could simply break it.

However, if treating the guitar and the set up in a sensible way, you should not run into problems, even if you tune in free mode. Good luck.



-----
Parker Fly Mojo 08, Summer!
Parker Fly Mojo Quilt 08, Transparent Green Burst
Parker Fly Deluxe 01, Majik Blue
Title: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: rathole on February 26, 2011, 05:37:30 PM
Newbie here...just found this forum for Parker owners...Didn't know it existed

rathole
2001 Parker Supreme
1939??1941 Ric lap steel
1964 Epiphone Wilshire
1964 Gibson Firebird I
1967 Rickenbacker
197? Ovation Balladeer
1977 BC Rich Mockingbird
2007 American Tele
1974 Guild S100
1977 Hagstrom Patch 2000
Line 6 Variax 700
2007 Birdsong Bass
Carvin 5 string fretless bass
Epiphone re-issue 1966 wilshire

Title: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: danjazzny on February 26, 2011, 08:03:43 PM
Welcome to the Parker Forum Rathole! Can't go wrong starting off with a Supreme!! You came to the right place. Lots of helpful Parkerites here. [8D]

'97 Alex Artist 4lbs12oz; '99 Simonized Artist 4lbs13oz; '97  TransRed Artist 4lbs9oz; '98 3-Tone Sunburst Artist (Hardtail)5lbs2oz; '99 Tobacco Sunburst Supreme 5lbs13oz; Line6 Flextone 3 Amp; Line 6 Vetta II Amp
Title: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: rathole on February 27, 2011, 10:36:59 AM
thanks for the welcome..I love my Parker...I have had it since 2001-2002--I don't use the Trem much (hardly ever) so I really don't know much about how the wheel and the Trem system works

rathole
2001 Parker Supreme
1939??1941 Ric lap steel
1964 Epiphone Wilshire
1964 Gibson Firebird I
1967 Rickenbacker
197? Ovation Balladeer
1977 BC Rich Mockingbird
2007 American Tele
1974 Guild S100
1977 Hagstrom Patch 2000
Line 6 Variax 700
2007 Birdsong Bass
Carvin 5 string fretless bass
Epiphone re-issue 1966 wilshire

Title: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: danjazzny on February 27, 2011, 12:17:01 PM
Here's a link to the original Fly Manual compliments of Sybersitizen.
http://thesybersite.com/parker/ParkerGuitarsHandbook_1995.pdf
Here's a link to the Parker Fly Tremolo Guide put together by Marco Pregnolato (wkcchampion).
http://www.parkerguitars.com/Downloads/manuals.html

'97 Alex Artist 4lbs12oz; '99 Simonized Artist 4lbs13oz; '97  TransRed Artist 4lbs9oz; '98 3-Tone Sunburst Artist (Hardtail)5lbs2oz; '99 Tobacco Sunburst Supreme 5lbs13oz; Line6 Flextone 3 Amp; Line 6 Vetta II Amp
Title: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: Facebones on April 04, 2011, 08:10:44 PM
quote:
Originally posted by uburoibob

quote:
Originally posted by Guitarman

There isa an easy solution to this topic...Call Ken Parker and ask him...
Peace!

Chuck



Ken really isn't the answer here. Parker Guitars is someone else now. Ken has moved on.

Bob

2001 Parker Fly Single 2 Silver  â€¢ 1997 Parker Fly Concert Burnt Butterscotch  â€¢  1999 Parker Fly Artist Custom Hardtail Butterscotch  â€¢  1998 Fly Classic in Transparent Dark Blue  â€¢  1998 Fly Classic in Cherry Red with DiBurro Roland Mod •  http://bobmartin1111.com



This may be a few years late, but the bolded part makes me sad..
Title: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: bno on April 05, 2011, 08:53:30 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Facebones

quote:
Originally posted by uburoibob

quote:
Originally posted by Guitarman

There isa an easy solution to this topic...Call Ken Parker and ask him...
Peace!

Chuck



Ken really isn't the answer here. Parker Guitars is someone else now. Ken has moved on.

Bob

2001 Parker Fly Single 2 Silver  â€¢ 1997 Parker Fly Concert Burnt Butterscotch  â€¢  1999 Parker Fly Artist Custom Hardtail Butterscotch  â€¢  1998 Fly Classic in Transparent Dark Blue  â€¢  1998 Fly Classic in Cherry Red with DiBurro Roland Mod •  http://bobmartin1111.com



This may be a few years late, but the bolded part makes me sad..

Don't be sad.  Be happy.  Ken created brought these guitars to life, and now they have a life of their own. And if you're lucky enough to have one (or more), you're very lucky indeed.  Look at it from the point of view like Leo and Les - they came up with the guitars, but others have provided the life.  And go take a look at what he's doing now.  www.KenParkerArchtops.com
Title: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: Tectonix on February 20, 2012, 05:50:40 AM
quote:
Originally posted by mattyn


AFTER 2006: Flys changed to a P followed by a seven digit code. The first two digits are the year, the next two are the number of the month, the next two are the number of the day it was completed, and the last number is that days production number.



Additionally, the P Code was implemented towards the end of 2006 and, during the transition, a rare few lacked the woods coding and USA marks, which were also moved from being right after the serial number to being placed on the back of the headstock.
Title: Re: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: slav123 on July 13, 2012, 11:15:57 AM
Pupthology:

Gen 1 Dimarzio's are great if you like them.(Slightly cleaner than 2)
Gen 2's are great if you like them. (slightly higher output than 1)
Seymor Duncan's are great if you like them. (available only in Mojo)

Gen. 1 Fly pups were used from 1993 through March of 1999. They had the original DiMarzio pickups, which were based on the Air Norton for the neck position and the Tone Zone for the bridge position. These are identified by a non italisized "block lettered" DiMarzio logo, which is 3/8" long.

Gen 2 Flys pups have been used since April of 1999. They are DiMarzio's newer Parker Fly Custom Neck #PHWP1, and Parker Fly Custom Bridge #PHWP2. These are identified by a slanted italisized DiMarzio logo, which is 5/8" long.

Gen 1 Logo
(http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk166/Slav123/1999%20Ruby%20Red%20Parker%20Fly%20Deluxe/ParkerFlyDeluxeOldDimarzioPickupsLogo.jpg)

Gen 2 Logo
(http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk166/Slav123/1999%20Ruby%20Red%20Parker%20Fly%20Deluxe/PArkerFlyDeluxeNewDimarzioPickupsLogo.jpg)

I was looking for pics, but couldn't find any. So I took them myself (the first pic is from a 1995 Fly Deluxe that I returned - bad eBay purchase and the second is from my 1999 Fly Deluxe).
Title: Re: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: Francis on December 26, 2012, 11:11:20 AM
I recently bought a second hand Parker mojo.
I should like to know if  with Seymour duncan are more "jazz" than Di Marzio.

Besides this, I don't understand clearly the differences between all the Parkers Guitars "Mojo" "Fly" "Flydeluxe", etc, etc..
Could someone explain to me in few words.
Thanks by advance
Francis
Title: Re: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: pghparker on September 14, 2013, 08:03:49 PM
Hi, just a quick note here. I was looking at my serial and the info about the pickups below is a little off. My Fly Deluxe was made on Feb 10, 1999 according to the serial and has the Gen2 pickups. So Gen 2's were included in the Feb production in 1999.

Glad to have found this forum, good info. Thanks!


Pupthology:

Gen 1 Dimarzio's are great if you like them.(Slightly cleaner than 2)
Gen 2's are great if you like them. (slightly higher output than 1)
Seymor Duncan's are great if you like them. (available only in Mojo)

Gen. 1 Fly pups were used from 1993 through March of 1999. They had the original DiMarzio pickups, which were based on the Air Norton for the neck position and the Tone Zone for the bridge position. These are identified by a non italisized "block lettered" DiMarzio logo, which is 3/8" long.

Gen 2 Flys pups have been used since April of 1999. They are DiMarzio's newer Parker Fly Custom Neck #PHWP1, and Parker Fly Custom Bridge #PHWP2. These are identified by a slanted italisized DiMarzio logo, which is 5/8" long.

Gen 1 Logo
(http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk166/Slav123/1999%20Ruby%20Red%20Parker%20Fly%20Deluxe/ParkerFlyDeluxeOldDimarzioPickupsLogo.jpg)

Gen 2 Logo
(http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk166/Slav123/1999%20Ruby%20Red%20Parker%20Fly%20Deluxe/PArkerFlyDeluxeNewDimarzioPickupsLogo.jpg)

I was looking for pics, but couldn't find any. So I took them myself (the first pic is from a 1995 Fly Deluxe that I returned - bad eBay purchase and the second is from my 1999 Fly Deluxe).
Title: Re: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: bembamboo on October 26, 2013, 10:04:18 AM
slav123-i hesitate to say this, but your bridge may be leaning forward as my 98 artist seems to be.  note in the gen 2 photo how the ball-end of the bridge post has moved FORWARD in the body route and is off center.  also the forward, bass side of the aluminum bridge is touching the body route (or nearly touching) and finish is being chipped off in the corner of the route. 

see my photo (blow it up to 400%).  http://i.imgur.com/4n57Ako.jpg

all the same is apparent.  both posts have moved forward on my artist.  it is unplayable, untuneable, and finish is chipping.  so far the factory is resisting and ignoring my emails.  see the attached youtube factory video that inadvertently explains the problem at 4:47-5:45.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLnjCwa00qE

Title: Re: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: D8th on February 14, 2015, 10:56:02 PM
My second Parker Fly.
First one in 95' 96. Deluxe-black. With a Fender Acoustasonic and a Johnson Millenium.
Sold it a few years later.
FastForward: 2011 diagnosed and treated for multiple myeloma. Left me with bone disease and a few other souvineers and a longing for a guitar that I could hold upright for more than a few minutes.
Yeah, I wanted my Fly back. Just received my second one. Deluxe, emerald green. 1998.
I am upright and rocking, sort of.
Glad to be back.

Also:
Mark Knopfler Strat
Burns Steer
Ric 330/12
Ric 330/6 walnut
Taylor 456ce
Taylor LTD FALL Grand Concert. Rosewood
Taylor GS mini
Epiphone Casino
Headstrong 'Lil King 10w
Title: Re: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: bisalou on August 21, 2017, 10:11:43 PM
So far I have read of a couple of ways to determine the date of manufacture of a fly. The serial # as stated in one place is that the first 3 numbers is the day of the year. In another it is "ddmm" last # year). Hard to determine which? I now have 2 Parkers....a deluxe and a Mojo....both early 90's as I can figure, one with a redwood neck. And boy, do they sing!
Title: Re: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: Dalton-888 on November 12, 2017, 12:37:09 PM
Hello i'm French and i don't speak english very well.

So someone could be answer to my question in French ...?

Thanks a lot


"Bonjour à tous,


J'ai craqué sur une parker fly deluxe d'occasion en magasin, il me semble que c'est une P.42 vendue à 990E et dans le même temps j'ai trouvé sur leboncoin pour le même tarif une fly classique qui est de 1994 d'apres son numéro de série et Pre-refined (je ne sais pas ce que cela signifie).

Que est la meilleur game ? que choisiriez vous ?

Autre info sur la fly deluxe en magasin, il n'y à que 2 boutons réglage et un switch...


Merci pour vos conseils
Title: Re: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: Patzag on November 12, 2017, 04:56:05 PM
Classique en tous les cas.  De loin bien meilleure!
Title: Re: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: sybersitizen on November 12, 2017, 05:51:51 PM
This is a P42:

(https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/static/article/gear/2/3232_1_ver0.jpg)

This is a Fly Deluxe (Pre-refined):

(http://www.imagineguitars.com/archive/electric/001_parkerfly/pics/all.jpg)

This is a Fly Classic (Refined):

(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--u6rlhDZW--/a_exif,c_limit,e_unsharp_mask:80,f_auto,fl_progressive,g_south,h_620,q_90,w_620/v1463854359/gonesd7qkgocb3wwbwez.jpg)
Title: Re: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: Dalton-888 on November 13, 2017, 02:37:38 AM
Merci pour les photos.

La  Fly Deluxe (Pre-refined) est donc un vieux modèle.

A partir de quelle année Parker à arrêté de la produire et a proposé les fly deluxe refined ?

Quelle est l'année de sortie de la P.42 ?

Le manche est bien en carbone sur toute ces guitares ?

Selon vous, pour le même prix il faut mieux prendre une vieille classique pre refined qui est de 1994 qu'une P.42 ??

Merci pour toutes vos réponses et tous vos conseils...
Title: Re: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: Patzag on November 13, 2017, 08:50:46 AM
Salut Dalton.
Les vielles Classiques sont infiniment supérieures aux modèles raffines.  J'ai vendu toutes mes guitares raffines pour m'acheter une ancienne Classique et une Deluxe.
Les manches sont tous en bois mais couverts de carbone sur le dos et la touche est une mixture de verre et epoxy.  Genial!
Ciao et bonne chance.
Title: Re: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: sybersitizen on November 13, 2017, 11:26:20 AM
Translate English <> French here:

https://translate.google.com/

The Fly Classic and Fly Deluxe are both good guitars. Most people prefer the old (pre-refined) versions, but that is a personal decision.

A P42 is not as good as a Fly. It is heavier and it has no carbon fiber.

For the same price, you should not buy the P42. You should buy the Fly Classic or the Fly Deluxe.
Title: Re: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: Dalton-888 on November 13, 2017, 05:39:40 PM
Encore merci pour vos conseils.

Quel est à votre avis cette guitare :

http://www.guitare-village.com/occasion/rock/rock_3881.php

Une P.42 qui correspond à la photo de sybersitizen ou une fly deluxe ??

Si c'est une fly deluxe, Pourquoi n'existe t'il alors que 2 boutons et 1 switch ?

Est ce encore une série spéciale ?

Quel est la différence avec toute les autres fly qui ont en générale 2 switch et au moins 3 boutons?

Quels sont les conséquences : moins de réglage, y'a t'il un piezo ?

Merci pour vos réponses...
Title: Re: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: sybersitizen on November 13, 2017, 08:32:15 PM
http://www.guitare-village.com/occasion/rock/rock_3881.php

English:

A pre-refined Fly normally has 4 knobs and 2 switches and piezo pickups.

A refined Fly normally has 3 knobs and 2 switches and piezo pickups.

That is a pre-refined Fly Deluxe, not a P42. However, it does not have the correct number of knobs and switches because a previous owner modified the guitar. There is no way to know what has been changed inside, so buying that guitar would be risky.

Français:

Un Fly pré-raffiné a normalement 4 boutons et 2 commutateurs et micros piezo.

Un Fly raffiné a normalement 3 boutons et 2 commutateurs et micros piezo.

C'est un Fly Deluxe pré-affiné, pas un P42. Cependant, il n'a pas le nombre correct de boutons et de commutateurs car un ancien propriétaire a modifié la guitare. Il n'y a aucun moyen de savoir ce qui a été changé à l'intérieur, donc acheter cette guitare serait risqué.
Title: Re: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: Dalton-888 on November 14, 2017, 09:48:07 AM
Thanks for these precisions sybersitizen, you are a veritable expert !

I have a serious dilem cause 2 owners wants to sell me a parker fly for the same price, what is the good choice?? :

The first is  is the pre-refined Fly Deluxe. However, it does not have the correct number of knobs and switches because a previous owner modified the guitar. it's this that you are seen :

- http://www.guitare-village.com/occasion/rock/rock_3881.php

it's a 1996 Fly deluxe, basswood neck, poplar body... No piezo

other choice :

- https://www.leboncoin.fr/instruments_de_musique/1315660778.htm?ca=4_s

it's a 1994 Pre-refined Fly Classic…..Dimarzio pickups, Basswood neck, Poplar body….they jack has been pro replaced and i don't find the vibrato on the picture...

What will be your choice ??

Title: Re: Parker Fly Facts ( new users start here.)
Post by: sybersitizen on November 14, 2017, 10:42:43 AM
What will be your choice ??

English:

Based on what we see in the photographs, I would choose the Classic. But it is best to test both guitars before buying.

One correction ... A Deluxe has a poplar body and the serial number should show "BP". A Classic has a mahogany body and the serial number should show "BMH".

Français:

Sur la base de ce que nous voyons sur les photos, je choisirais le Classic. Mais il est préférable de tester les deux guitares avant d'acheter.

Une correction ... Un Deluxe a un corps de peuplier et le numéro de série doit indiquer "BP". Un Classique a un corps en acajou et le numéro de série doit indiquer "BMH".