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Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: wkcchampion on November 22, 2009, 05:21:52 AM
Hi guys, here is the new guide!
*NEW GOOGLE DRIVE LINK*
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-bURNmuDq2-a0VPd3lPZldwVmc/view?usp=sharing

(old link - still working)
http://pregnosplatter.altervista.org/Files/Fly%20trem%20guide%202%20-%20how%20to%20setup%20the%20bridge%20step%20by%20step.pdf
(If an Altervista window appears, click on QUI to access the file)

It includes the previous guide. It helps to setup the bridge, including more pics than the manual (which <i>must </i>be read anyway!)

Moderator, if u want, please make this a sticky, as it replaces the prev one.

I hope you like it... and that helps who has doubts after reading the manual

Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: danjazzny on November 22, 2009, 11:35:08 AM
Nice job on the Fly Trem Guide II Marco! Thanks for all the effort you put into it. I'm sure it will be a huge help to a lot of Forum members. [8D]

'97 Alex Artist 4lbs12oz; '99 Simonized Artist 4lbs13oz; '97 Custom TransRed Artist 4lbs9oz; '98 Custom 3-Tone Sunburst Artist (Hardtail)5lbs2oz; '96 Dayn Deluxe (Hardtail)5lbs; Line6 Flextone 3 Amp; Line 6 Vetta II Amp
Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: gtrbmart on November 22, 2009, 02:09:13 PM
Definitely going to be reading this.  The first one helped me out a bunch when I first set up my Fly.  Which reminds me, I'm going to PM you about when you replaced your nut.
Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: wkcchampion on November 22, 2009, 02:12:10 PM
I ddin't replace it, I just filed the original one. It worked so no need for replacement

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Boss GT-10
VOX AC30CC2X
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Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: gtrbmart on November 22, 2009, 02:15:51 PM
Well, ignore the PM I sent you then!
Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: AndyI on November 23, 2009, 02:02:19 AM
quote:
Originally posted by wkcchampion

 I just filed the original one. It worked so no need for replacement





I had a tech file the nut on my Mojo. Same success. I had been convinced I'd need to get a replacement to deal with the high-E twang, but it seems fine now.

Fly Deluxe '96 | Fly Mojo '05 | '09 Artist | custom HSS Midi Fly | bronze fly '09 | Mesa Boogie Roadster head + 2 x 12 / 4 x 12 | AER Compact 60 | TC Electronic G System | Lehle stereo switchers and P Split | Taylor 815ce | Taylor 410ce | Fender RR Strat | Axon AX50 | Gibson Chet Atkins SST | Takamine Nylon CP132SC |  Ovation mm68 mandolin | Roland VG-99 | TC Electronic Nova System
Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: wkcchampion on November 24, 2009, 02:13:51 AM
Yeah, I'm just waiting for BillyT or a moderator to make it official.
If anybody finds mistakes, let me know, I'll fix them asap.

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http://pregnosplatter.altervista.org

Pearl White 2008 Fly Mojo :)
Majik Blue 1995 Fly Deluxe (Gen1 Di Marzio PUs)
Boss GT-10
VOX AC30CC2X
(more gear on my website)
Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: Bill on November 24, 2009, 06:21:04 AM
Wow, Marco that was a lot of work and a great service to the Forum and Parker fans.

Thanks for that very useful contribution. [:)]

A few Flys in my soup
Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: wkcchampion on November 24, 2009, 07:00:17 AM
Bill, Thank you but keep in mind that teh realization of my guide wouldn't have been possible without the input of the members too!
Thank you all guys

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Pregno Splatter
http://pregnosplatter.altervista.org

Pearl White 2008 Fly Mojo :)
Majik Blue 1995 Fly Deluxe (Gen1 Di Marzio PUs)
Boss GT-10
VOX AC30CC2X
(more gear on my website)
Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: Nefarius on November 25, 2009, 03:53:28 AM
Read it, not all too thoroughly, but every paragraph.
Only found one typo so far. Page 4, "First, no matter what mode is preferred...", missing the "w".
(Wasn't the world happy being rid of "W." one year ago? Hehe...)

Oh and wkcchampion, please don't use a Fender strap on a Fly, that hurts! *s*
And very nice flowery bedding/tablecloth (whatever it is) as backdrop for your Fly pictures... [:P]

Greetings...
Nef
Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: Steven Murali Levine on November 25, 2009, 04:49:58 AM
Great job Marco.  Very useful, especially the pics.  MILLE GRAZZI!
Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: wkcchampion on November 25, 2009, 05:36:39 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Nefarius

Read it, not all too thoroughly, but every paragraph.
Only found one typo so far. Page 4, "First, no matter what mode is preferred...", missing the "w".
(Wasn't the world happy being rid of "W." one year ago? Hehe...)

Oh and wkcchampion, please don't use a Fender strap on a Fly, that hurts! *s*
And very nice flowery bedding/tablecloth (whatever it is) as backdrop for your Fly pictures... [:P]



Oh I missed that typo, I'll fix it soon ;)
That Fender strap is very old, I'm proud of it! It was my first strap, since I was 6 years old, and I still keep it :D  BTW, does Parker make their own Fly straps? Never seen one.

To Lavine: the correct Italian words for "many thanks" are "grazie mille" ;)

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Pregno Splatter
http://pregnosplatter.altervista.org

Pearl White 2008 Fly Mojo :)
Majik Blue 1995 Fly Deluxe (Gen1 Di Marzio PUs)
Boss GT-10
VOX AC30CC2X
(more gear on my website)
Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: Steven Murali Levine on November 25, 2009, 08:19:19 PM
quote:


To Lavine: the correct Italian words for "many thanks" are "grazie mille" ;)





touché.  What no credit for effort?  [:(]

and the correct spelling of my last name is "Levine"
Peace,
Murali  [:X]
Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: wkcchampion on November 26, 2009, 02:34:37 AM
@Steven you're right! Sorry :(  1-1 then ;)

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Pearl White 2008 Fly Mojo :)
Majik Blue 1995 Fly Deluxe (Gen1 Di Marzio PUs)
Boss GT-10
VOX AC30CC2X
(more gear on my website)
Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: wkcchampion on December 01, 2009, 11:13:23 AM
Hey, can a moderator make this as a Sticky please?

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Pregno Splatter
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Pearl White 2008 Fly Mojo :)
Majik Blue 1995 Fly Deluxe (Gen1 Di Marzio PUs)
Boss GT-10
VOX AC30CC2X
(more gear on my website)
Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: Steven Murali Levine on December 04, 2009, 12:26:28 AM
quote:
Originally posted by wkcchampion

Hey, can a moderator make this as a Sticky please?

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Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: wkcchampion on December 06, 2009, 02:41:37 AM
bump.. mods? Ouh. They look dead

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Pregno Splatter
http://pregnosplatter.altervista.org

Pearl White 2008 Fly Mojo :)
Majik Blue 1995 Fly Deluxe (Gen1 Di Marzio PUs)
Boss GT-10
VOX AC30CC2X
(more gear on my website)
Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: wkcchampion on December 09, 2009, 08:48:30 AM
up

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Pregno Splatter
http://pregnosplatter.altervista.org

Pearl White 2008 Fly Mojo :)
Majik Blue 1995 Fly Deluxe (Gen1 Di Marzio PUs)
Boss GT-10
VOX AC30CC2X
(more gear on my website)
Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: alexgalang on March 27, 2010, 06:16:04 AM
hey guys! I'm new with the forum so I could use some help if anything has been done wrong....I am an owner of a '98 fly,a beautiful guitar,but when I purchased it last year I didn't know a lot about old parkers so I tuned it accidentally when in was set in the floyd-rose...what do I do?I haven't managed to receive any help, so please tell me what to do.thank you so much
Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: bno on March 27, 2010, 08:37:16 AM
quote:
Originally posted by alexgalang

hey guys! I'm new with the forum so I could use some help if anything has been done wrong....I am an owner of a '98 fly,a beautiful guitar,but when I purchased it last year I didn't know a lot about old parkers so I tuned it accidentally when in was set in the floyd-rose...what do I do?I haven't managed to receive any help, so please tell me what to do.thank you so much

Hi Alex, welcome.  Couple of things - a single post does the trick.  You are on the right thread for figuring out your adjustment issue.  Just download and follow the instructions and your Fly will be back to normal in no time.
Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: alexgalang on March 28, 2010, 11:05:47 AM
hey bno!thanks a lot.but what do I download?and could someone please tell me what exactly happens when you tune the parker in floyd-rose mode?i just want to find the root of the problem,where it is located.i only know the side effects;detuning, bridge changes height from floyd-rose to home,etc...The sad thing about the whole matter is that I haven't enjoyed the guitar at all.so it's pretty annoying not to be able to play on the guitar.thank you
Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: alexgalang on March 28, 2010, 11:13:41 AM
oh yeah,I also made a mistake...I own a '95 fly deluxe,not '98.
Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: sybersitizen on March 28, 2010, 11:40:41 AM
I'm not sure why you keep referring to Floyd Rose mode. Does your 95 Deluxe have the stock Parker vibrato? If so, the link to the adjustment instructions is in the first post of this thread.

The goal of those instructions is to have the tension of the strings properly balanced against the tension of the internal spring, and for that relationship to remain exactly the same whether the vibrato assembly is set to floating mode, bend-down mode, or fixed mode. This is the most stable arrangement for the assembly, and the one that most of us seek.

'01 Fly Deluxe|'69 SG Standard
Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: Patzag on March 28, 2010, 03:07:43 PM
Marco, I'd like to suggest an addendum to your guide, specifically because all strings are not made equal. For instance, I use 0.0095 strings from d'Addario. Just the right balance for me of slinkyness and tone.
But the 9 spring is too soft and the 10 spring is too strong UNLESS a
specific adjustment is made:
the tremolo section which receives te spring has three grooves. The highest one is the strongest setting and the lowest one the softest, spring tensions being equal. So my 10 spring approaches a "9.5" when I set it closest to the axis.  
It's a simple physics fact that the angular
moment is weaker the closer to to the axis.
That's what I applied and that worked.
I suspect that others who might be using heavy bottom strings might have difficulty with some springs. This would be the answer.
Patrick
Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: alexgalang on March 28, 2010, 04:46:14 PM
I keep referring to it because tuning in the floating mode is obviously a "must not do" thing.even in the guide it says "NEVER NEVER NEVER"...well,because of my not knowing then, I did that "NEVER NEVER NEVER" thing and can't find a solution to the bridge problem.
Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: sybersitizen on March 28, 2010, 05:19:01 PM
To clarify, I know nothing about Floyd Rose hardware, so I still don't know what you mean. But I have set up my Fly vibrato as described above and it's quite stable. I also don't need to avoid retuning (just slighty and if needed, such as if one string is a tad sharp or flat) while the assembly is in floating mode. It makes no real difference if everything is set up well beforehand. But a major retuning or a restringing does have to be handled differently.

If you're still having trouble, just loosen all your strings and follow the guide from step one.

'01 Fly Deluxe|'69 SG Standard
Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: alexgalang on March 28, 2010, 06:04:42 PM
by floyd rose i mean the floating position...and i am really sorry that i'm getting so tiring, but my problem has a very simple story and unfortunately neither the manual of the guitar can help me,nor the one that is posted.I just accidentally tuned the guitar while in floating mode which is something "prohibited" let's say, and I just can't find and understand why this occurs.why is my guitar detuning and why is the bridge changing height from mode to mode?what exactly has this mistake done to the guitar?if i don't know which part of the guitar has been affected how will I be able to fix it?thanks again and excuse me for becoming a pain in...
Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: sybersitizen on March 28, 2010, 06:15:21 PM
Don't worry - the guitar has suffered no permanent damage!

The main annoying thing that can happen when you tune or retune the guitar in Floating mode is that the Step Stop will probably no longer be in the right position if and when you want to switch to Bend Down or Fixed mode. But for people who only use Floating mode, that's not even a problem.

As I said, just loosen all the strings and follow the guide from the beginning.

'01 Fly Deluxe|'69 SG Standard
Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: sybersitizen on March 28, 2010, 06:18:41 PM
Also, make sure that the internal spring is the right one for your string gauge. The spring usually has a number painted on it that corresponds with the correct high E gauge: 8, 9, 10, 11, or 12.

'01 Fly Deluxe|'69 SG Standard
Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: wkcchampion on March 29, 2010, 02:04:33 AM
Yes it's no big problem.! Just redo the all thing.
Step stop Fixed, tune up, and then go floating!

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Marco
http://pregnosplatter.altervista.org

Pearl White 2008 Fly Mojo :)
"Eldy" / Majik Blue 1995 Fly Deluxe (Gen1 Di Marzio PUs)
POD X3 Pro
VOX AC30CC2X modded
Marshall JMP-1 + EL34 50/50
Palmer PDI-03
(more gear on my website)

"I haven't got a 1968 Plexi, but.. I've got 1968 Rayban Aviators! :)"
Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: alexgalang on March 29, 2010, 05:40:29 AM
hey guys,thank you sooooo much!I'll try out what you told and re-post with the news.thanks again
Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: wkcchampion on March 29, 2010, 07:04:14 AM
Please make a new thread. This should be for the guide only

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Marco
http://pregnosplatter.altervista.org

Pearl White 2008 Fly Mojo :)
"Eldy" / Majik Blue 1995 Fly Deluxe (Gen1 Di Marzio PUs)
POD X3 Pro
VOX AC30CC2X modded
Marshall JMP-1 + EL34 50/50
Palmer PDI-03
(more gear on my website)

"I haven't got a 1968 Plexi, but.. I've got 1968 Rayban Aviators! :)"
Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: Patzag on April 01, 2010, 10:11:46 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Patzag

Marco, I'd like to suggest an addendum to your guide, specifically because all strings are not made equal. For instance, I use 0.0095 strings from d'Addario. Just the right balance for me of slinkyness and tone.
But the 9 spring is too soft and the 10 spring is too strong UNLESS a
specific adjustment is made:
the tremolo section which receives te spring has three grooves. The highest one is the strongest setting and the lowest one the softest, spring tensions being equal. So my 10 spring approaches a "9.5" when I set it closest to the axis.  
It's a simple physics fact that the angular
moment is weaker the closer to to the axis.
That's what I applied and that worked.
I suspect that others who might be using heavy bottom strings might have difficulty with some springs. This would be the answer.
Patrick



bump as I think my post got "lost" in the cross talk
Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: wkcchampion on April 01, 2010, 01:44:25 PM
Obviously every situation will be different. My guide covers 90% of the cases. It has to be slightly adapted to particular situations.

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Marco
http://pregnosplatter.altervista.org

Pearl White 2008 Fly Mojo :)
"Eldy" / Majik Blue 1995 Fly Deluxe (Gen1 Di Marzio PUs)
POD X3 Pro
VOX AC30CC2X modded
Marshall JMP-1 + EL34 50/50
Palmer PDI-03
(more gear on my website)

"I haven't got a 1968 Plexi, but.. I've got 1968 Rayban Aviators! :)"
Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: boysennumba5 on November 06, 2010, 02:20:33 PM
So I set up my tremolo (using both the manual, which wherever they have pictures they're very blurry and hard to read) and the link posted in this forum, and the trem seems to be working ok, but the bridge is nowhere near level, which as the manual states is clearly not supposed to be the case. But it also doesn't say anything anywhere about how to make the bridge be level while still doing the rest of this stuff as mentioned.

Help?
Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: marvin jensen on December 24, 2010, 11:13:41 AM
quote:
Originally posted by wkcchampion

quote:
Originally posted by Nefarius

Read it, not all too thoroughly, but every paragraph.
Only found one typo so far. Page 4, "First, no matter what mode is preferred...", missing the "w".
(Wasn't the world happy being rid of "W." one year ago? Hehe...)

Oh and wkcchampion, please don't use a Fender strap on a Fly, that hurts! *s*
And very nice flowery bedding/tablecloth (whatever it is) as backdrop for your Fly pictures... [:P]



Hi Marco,

Send me your email addy and I will send you a pic of a Parker strap.  Ken made a few.

Marvin

Oh I missed that typo, I'll fix it soon ;)
That Fender strap is very old, I'm proud of it! It was my first strap, since I was 6 years old, and I still keep it :D  BTW, does Parker make their own Fly straps? Never seen one.

To Lavine: the correct Italian words for "many thanks" are "grazie mille" ;)

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Pregno Splatter
http://pregnosplatter.altervista.org

Pearl White 2008 Fly Mojo :)
Majik Blue 1995 Fly Deluxe (Gen1 Di Marzio PUs)
Boss GT-10
VOX AC30CC2X
(more gear on my website)


Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: Ritchgbg on July 26, 2011, 02:17:49 AM
The link doesn't work anymore, could someone please post it once again , or send it by mail ?????

Thanks !! [8D][8D]
Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: Lateralus on August 16, 2011, 04:29:10 PM
Broken link. Can anyone please re-link or repost? Thank you!
Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: danjazzny on August 16, 2011, 08:43:34 PM
Try this: http://www.parkerguitars.com/Downloads/manuals.html
Scroll down to the Fly Tremolo Guide. [;)]

'97 Alex Artist 4lbs12oz; '99 Simonized Artist 4lbs13oz; '97  TransRed Artist 4lbs9oz; '98 3-Tone Sunburst Artist (Hardtail)5lbs2oz; '99 Tobacco Sunburst Supreme 5lbs13oz; Line6 Flextone 3 Amp; Line 6 Vetta II Amp

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Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: LuciferHimself on September 12, 2011, 05:35:46 PM
quote:
Originally posted by wkcchampion

Hi guys, here is the new guide!
http://pregnosplatter.altervista.org/files/Fly%20trem%20guide%202%20-%20how%20to%20setup%20the%20bridge%20step%20by%20step.pdf
(If an Altervista window appears, click on QUI to cess the file)

It includes the previous guide. It helps to setup the bridge, including mroe pics than the manual (which must be read anyway!)

Moderator, if u want, please make this a sticky, as it replaces the prev one.

I hope you like it... and that helps who has doubts after reading the manual

---------
Pregno Splatter
http://pregnosplatter.altervista.org

Pearl White 2008 Fly Mojo :)
Majik Blue 1995 Fly Deluxe (Gen1 Di Marzio PUs)
Boss GT-10
VOX AC30CC2X
(more gear on my website)


Hey Champ the link doesnt seem to work for me mate. I also click on qui but it says the page doesnt exist. Would you be able to email me the manual if i gave you my email address?? Cheers [:(]
Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: chromefree on September 19, 2011, 11:44:42 AM
Yeah, this link does not work, "page does not exist".

A little help?
Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: wkcchampion on October 07, 2011, 08:51:04 AM
sorry for the delay guys. I've been away for a while. shoot me a mail and i'll reply you with the manual. I'll fix that ASAP

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Marco
http://pregnosplatter.altervista.org

Pearl White 2008 Fly Mojo (Fralin PUs)
"Eldy" / Majik Blue 1995 Fly Deluxe (Gen1 Di Marzio PUs)
1993 Japanese "lawsuit" 1959 replica Les Paul
1959 Fender pre-CBS Strat
VOX AC30CC2X modded
Marshall JCM800 1959 SuperLead (1981)
Marshall JCM800 2203 (1983)
Marshall 1969 Basketweave with Pre-Rola G12Ms T1221 / 102 003
Marshall JMP-1 MIDI valve preamp
2010 Laney CUB12
Palmer PDI-03
2010 Blackstar HT-Boost valve pedal
1981 BOSS SD-1


"I haven't got a 1968 Plexi, but.. I've got 1968 Rayban Aviators! :)"
Title: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: wkcchampion on October 13, 2011, 01:26:37 PM
Link fixed. Works for me now, try again

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Marco
http://pregnosplatter.altervista.org

Pearl White 2008 Fly Mojo (Fralin PUs)
"Eldy" / Majik Blue 1995 Fly Deluxe (Gen1 Di Marzio PUs)
1993 Japanese "lawsuit" 1959 replica Les Paul
1959 Fender pre-CBS Strat
VOX AC30CC2X modded
Marshall JCM800 1959 SuperLead (1981)
Marshall JCM800 2203 (1983)
Marshall 1969 Basketweave with Pre-Rola G12Ms T1221 / 102 003
Marshall JMP-1 MIDI valve preamp
2010 Laney CUB12
Palmer PDI-03
2010 Blackstar HT-Boost valve pedal
1981 BOSS SD-1


"I haven't got a 1968 Plexi, but.. I've got 1968 Rayban Aviators! :)"
Title: Re: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: pat1929 on May 20, 2013, 03:39:15 PM
cant find a working link, Anybody have a copy?
 thanx!
Title: Re: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: sybersitizen on May 20, 2013, 03:55:20 PM
Try the link in this other thread:

http://forums.parkerguitars.com/index.php/topic,9965.0.html
Title: Re: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: pat1929 on May 20, 2013, 04:03:52 PM
cool, this one worked
http://www.parkerguitars.com/images/stories/manuals/Fly_trem_guide.pdf.
Title: Re: GUIDE - How to setup the bridge Step-by-Step
Post by: wkcchampion on July 29, 2013, 07:42:40 AM
Thank you guys! Happy to see that my guide is still useful to you!