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Parker Models => MAXXFLY (formerly DRAGONFLY) => Topic started by: Mr303 on April 15, 2015, 09:39:34 AM

Title: DF series ID help
Post by: Mr303 on April 15, 2015, 09:39:34 AM
Once again here is an ID question.

I'll post pictures when the guitar gets here.

In case anyone saw it on eBay the last couple days it was displayed laying in a hardcase. I believe it's a DF422.

Briefly
Its a tangerine DF series with carbon wrapped neck, maybe.
Spoke with seller, neck was painted to match body by aprevious owner no serial number transfer. Odd that.
Sounded like he described a Shazrock job but again that's a big maybe since Shazrock transfers serial numbers every time. Unless they get in an odd neck?

Without usual slide selector which is wrong for the all DF's in catalogs or pictures. <<<red flag :o

Three knobs with two toggles, one large with plastic tip( pup select (upper)) and one small chrome toggle without tip(piezo(lower)).  2 humbuckers (marked with USM logo as per a DF422),1 Parker trem with ghost piezos. Not sure if coil tap.

Battery compartment is set outside of and directly adjacent to back panel in guitar body near tail. :o

Truss rod cover engraved with.   ME201. <<<this is a big red flag! :o.
Looks original though, could not locate any truss cover similar to it.

Tuners look like lockers but not Sperzles <<<<another flag. :o

These four points are suspect, but the seller has a good record for selling Fly Classics and Deluxe's, which has me wondering if it's a special edition of some sort.

After the deal I see that the guitar was sent back once before by another buyer, for what reasons I don't know.

If any members have an idea about this rig please let me know.  It arrives 4/20-28. 
If a forum member happens to have dealt with this rig that would be good to know too.
Thanks for any help. 
I'll post pictures in a week or so.

Another addition to the stable....I got GAS bad.
Obviously I haven't been around the Parker country enough to know the tidbits of models so any leads or suggestions are most welcome.

Cheers and thanks!
Mr303
Title: Re: DF series ID help
Post by: lucgravely on April 15, 2015, 11:08:06 AM
Post pics and we'll see. Sounds fishy to me.
Title: Re: DF series ID help
Post by: taxguydave on April 15, 2015, 04:18:04 PM
I saw the truss rod cover engraved ME 201.  It didn't look like it fit.  It probably shouldn't, given that it's a First Act model number.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTAyNFg3Njg=/z/4j4AAOSwBLlU-fOe/$_35.JPG)
Title: Re: DF series ID help
Post by: sybersitizen on April 15, 2015, 05:46:18 PM
Here's the eBay listing page:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/parker-guitar-very-nice-lower-price-today-/281660636355?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4194483cc3&nma=true&si=7qVqRxnsXz%252BrB%252FCuy%252FUghInkmRc%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Looks to me like a 'real' Parker with some owner modifications.
Title: Re: DF series ID help
Post by: Mr303 on April 15, 2015, 07:23:16 PM
Arrrgh!!

First act?! Feel free to PM me with info like that.

Yeaarrrgh! owner mods, scary.

I hope to hell it ain't owner modded beyond repair.

Shazrock yeah that's it Shazrock yeah...gawd more money, faster horses, younger women, more money.

I'll post pictures.
 
Thanks everyone for the input.
Title: Re: DF series ID help
Post by: erikrdev on April 16, 2015, 05:14:07 AM
I saw this on ebay a few weeks ago , it sold fast back then and it was re listed this week .  I think it's a pdf70 with a painted neck , headstock and a graphtech added.
Title: Re: DF series ID help
Post by: lucgravely on April 16, 2015, 07:15:46 AM
Other than the truss cover not being the correct size I think it looks OK.
Title: Re: DF series ID help
Post by: Mr303 on April 16, 2015, 07:53:18 AM
so that makes it a PDF75? 

This Franken Parker will be looked at, returned, and I'll post photos so others can avoid this beast in the future.

Now to see how good the PayPal return system is.

Title: Re: DF series ID help
Post by: sybersitizen on April 16, 2015, 08:13:04 AM
Other than the truss cover not being the correct size I think it looks OK.

Is there a stock PDF model with that knob/switch configuration?
Title: Re: DF series ID help
Post by: Mr303 on April 16, 2015, 09:37:45 AM
Now that my eye focuses on the guitar instead of the finish,my PDF105 has the same configuration except the piezo switch matches the pup select switch i.e. Black plastic tips.

This one appears to have been upmodded by a previous owner so the piezo selector is odd, as is the neck....etc.etc.etc.
Title: Re: DF series ID help
Post by: sybersitizen on April 16, 2015, 09:59:06 AM
... my PDF105 has the same configuration except the piezo switch matches the pup select switch...

Look closely at the exact positions of the knobs. Still a match? And yes, the switch is different.
Title: Re: DF series ID help
Post by: lucgravely on April 16, 2015, 02:23:48 PM
Let me rephrase, it might be a good player even if modified a bunch (I personally think it's a real modified Parker import). Maybe if you like it and it sounds good offer to keep it at a discounted price??
Title: Re: DF series ID help (vote now!)
Post by: Mr303 on April 16, 2015, 03:12:01 PM
One odd bit is the USM labeled pups as in a df422 configuration.

New poll:


Any votes on what it is?
The closest correct description wins a beer on me next time you visit Denver Colorado.

My vote for now is a modified PDF model.
(Non Shazrock neck paint since no serial number, with possibly a Parker trem/piezo add on, tuners, maybe a different nut.

Title: Re: DF series ID help (vote now!)
Post by: sybersitizen on April 16, 2015, 04:32:05 PM
... tuners...

Those tuners are shown on Parker's PDF page - and two of those knobs are correctly positioned for a PDF70/80. So it appears that a knob and a switch and a battery compartment were added (presumably for piezos), plus the paint job and the oddball truss rod cover.
Title: Re: DF series ID help
Post by: taxguydave on April 17, 2015, 10:49:04 AM
I've thought that Parker should make a PDF75.  Maybe in the place of the PDF65.  The PDF70 comes in cooler finishes than the PDF60, and they already make the PDF35...

What if they did make a PDF75?  PDF70's frequently sell for around $500, so a decent used PDF75 would probably go for $600-$700...


Title: Re: DF series ID help (vote now!)
Post by: bigboki on April 17, 2015, 11:02:06 AM
One odd bit is the USM labeled pups as in a df422 configuration.

New poll:


Any votes on what it is?
The closest correct description wins a beer on me next time you visit Denver Colorado.

My vote for now is a modified PDF model.
(Non Shazrock neck paint since no serial number, with possibly a Parker trem/piezo add on, tuners, maybe a different nut.

compare the neck heels between DF and PDF
http://forums.parkerguitars.com/index.php/topic,15470.msg136320.html#msg136320

jb63 did great comparison shots between his DF and PDF.
So I hope that will definitely answer if the guitar you looked into is DF or PDF

hope this helps
yours Bojan
Title: Re: DF series ID help
Post by: Mr303 on April 17, 2015, 07:29:16 PM
Cool, good idea.
Just compared eBay photo to my PDF105.....exactly the same heel bolts and pattern.
It's a PDF Franken Parker.
thanks Bojan.
Every bit of info helps.
Title: Re: DF series ID help
Post by: Mr303 on April 26, 2015, 10:49:23 AM
Ok I have the guitar in hand.
I was worried about buying this one....but now,

I'm calling my new Parker a keeper, it's a PDF "75"  8)

It's a PDF70 With the neck serial number painted over.
Standard USM pups/ tuners/ Parker trem, etc.

It's been modded well and the upgrades improve the overall rig to very acceptable levels.

Mods:
Added ghost piezo's including micro toggle switch, volume pot/knob and electronics.
Added a second pot to the mags which separated coil taps for each pickup, (push/pull.)

Paint job on neck:
Turned out to be a very well executed nice paint job to neck and headstock (close color but not exact match to original or size of original metal flake, very minor but noticeable nonetheless.)

In a side by side comparison with another tangerine PDF70, the "PDF75" has a redder mandarin orange hue. Obviously differing paint lots account for this but if I could have spec'd color this is very close to what I like.  :)

Due to slightly heavier body and setup, the sustain seems better than my stock PDF 105 and the well executed work makes this rig a definite keeper.

I think it sounds better than my stock 105 at this point, and the coil taps (which the 105 lacks) push it just a little more into the really good category.

Thanks to everyone for your help.
Title: Re: DF series ID help
Post by: Lisa B on September 06, 2015, 09:23:41 PM
We, at Shazrock, had nothing to do with this guitar. We restore guitars to "like new" state, including replacement of factory original serial numbers, logos, and fret markers. If you ever have a question of whether it was repainted by us, you can contact us. We keep serial number historical records on hand.
Title: Re: DF series ID help
Post by: Mr303 on September 07, 2015, 09:15:24 AM
We, at Shazrock, had nothing to do with this guitar. We restore guitars to "like new" state, including replacement of factory original serial numbers, logos, and fret markers. If you ever have a question of whether it was repainted by us, you can contact us. We keep serial number historical records on hand.

I realize this guitar was never modded by you folks from the simple facts you stated above.
Thanks for responding back.