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Parker Models => PARKER JAZZ GUITARS => Topic started by: Musicman1 on February 07, 2007, 03:07:35 PM

Title: Parker Jazz Gtrs
Post by: Musicman1 on February 07, 2007, 03:07:35 PM
Ok...cool...Ill be the first to post here...has anyone seen one in person yet?? are they still in the ordering stage??

Musicman1

2005 Parker P44 in trans red
2002 EB MM Axis Sport  in trans gold
1984 Custom made boutique Strat
1977 Guild D40 NT
1976 Gibson 335 Custom in sunburst
A variety of amps and effects

Title: Parker Jazz Gtrs
Post by: simonlock on February 07, 2007, 03:33:13 PM
Cool that was fast. Great Job web guy!

Simon
Vancouver,BC

'00 Parker Fly Supreme-Butterscotch
'06 Parker Nylon Fly(thanks Jamie!)
'99 Parker Fly Artist w/Ken Parker signature
'06 Parker Fly Mojo-T/Cherry
'06 Parker Fly Classic-Dusty Black
'99 Parker Fly Classic-Natural
'99 Parker Fly Classic-T/Cherry
'96 Parker Fly Standard-Emerald Green
Title: Parker Jazz Gtrs
Post by: jamrcat on February 07, 2007, 05:25:15 PM
Since I came up with this idea of an acoustic and jazz category, is there any royalties I can collect? LOL I agree with Musicman, great job Webmister!!! [;)]

01' Parker Fly Classic w/SD Black Backs
05' Parker TR P-36 Modified w/SD's
Korg AX1500G, D-Tar Mama Bear

jamrcat
Butte, Montana
Title: Parker Jazz Gtrs
Post by: titanium667 on February 07, 2007, 08:01:13 PM
I should have been the first to post here being
I'm the only one here with a Parker Jazz!!!!
...the old Jazz model anyway![:)]

1999 Parker Fly Jazz
(http://homepage.mac.com/gtas/.Pictures/smallfly.jpg) (http://www.visitpittsburgh.com/images/db/static/Pens_300_small.jpg)
www.myspace.com/humankindness ¥ www.myspace.com/kidsafterdark
Title: Parker Jazz Gtrs
Post by: David Tomkins on February 08, 2007, 09:57:22 AM
titanium, you're such a show off!!
Perhaps we should rename the previous poster as Underwhelmington only.
Isn't the NAMM show a bit loud and noiy to judge the sound of a jazzer?  (honest question - don't feel insulted)


2005 Green Quilted Maple Custom Mojo, 2006 Parker Fly T-Shirt, 2006 Parker Fly Baseball Cap.  A triple-whammy of Parker goodness!!
Title: Parker Jazz Gtrs
Post by: uburoibob on February 10, 2007, 10:05:31 AM
I'll hop in here too. I spent a good long while with the Jazzes at NAMM. As I said, when I hit Parker's booth on Thursday, there was nothing going on there. Sure, there was residual ambient noise in the room, but as with Mick, I've been going to NAMM shows since 1980, and have learned to "listen through".

I'll start by saying that I am archtop enthusiast - I own many (1939 Gibson Super 400, four Steve Andersen archtops, including an Emerald City, two Little Archies and an Oval Hole, and several other newer and vintage archtops). They are my other passion (co-existent with Flys). My take on the Parker Jazz is that it's roughly commensurate in quality with the Epiphone Emperor Regent, which regularly sells for about $700. Parker has positioned their Jazz guitars in the same price range as imports by Sadowsky - in particular, the  Jim Hall signature model http://www.sadowsky.com/guitars/hall_signature.html#hall_model which is 100 times the guitar the Epi or the Parker is - they aren't even in a town near the same league. Eastman guitars, which are half the price, are still easily 3 to 4 times better than these. And it doesn't really matter that some are laminated and some are solid wood - the Jim Hall model is laminated because it's an ELECTRIC guitar, as are the Parkers. Lam construction, if done right, can make a much better-sounding electric guitar than solid wood.

Anyway, I've resisted a review of these, as I hate to rain on a parade. But I really just don't get it. A Parker Fly is the penutlimate solid body electric guitar, in my opinion. That these come from any company related to the Fly seems to be a complete disconnect.

Sorry, but that's the way I see it.

Bob

1999 Parker Fly Artist Custom Hardtail  â€¢ 1998 Fly Classic in Transparent Dark Blue (thanks, Darren!) •  1998 Fly Classic in Cherry Red with DiBurro Roland Mod • Now on a signature reduction program! Just the Flies, maam. •  www.rtmadvertising.com
Title: Parker Jazz Gtrs
Post by: AndyVt on February 13, 2007, 10:28:17 PM
quote:
Originally posted by titanium667

I should have been the first to post here being
I'm the only one here with a Parker Jazz!!!!
...the old Jazz model anyway![:)]

1999 Parker Fly Jazz
(http://homepage.mac.com/gtas/.Pictures/smallfly.jpg) (http://www.visitpittsburgh.com/images/db/static/Pens_300_small.jpg)
www.myspace.com/humankindness ¥ www.myspace.com/kidsafterdark


Forgive my ignorance, but what is the difference between a Parker Fly Classic and your Jazz?  My guitar looks exactly like the guitar in your photo and I think I have a Parker Fly Classic (I bought it used last year and that's what the original owner said).
AndyVt
Title: Parker Jazz Gtrs
Post by: simonlock on February 13, 2007, 10:47:16 PM
quote:
Forgive my ignorance, but what is the difference between a Parker Fly Classic and your Jazz?  My guitar looks exactly like the guitar in your photo and I think I have a Parker Fly Classic (I bought it used last year and that's what the original owner said).
AndyVt



Yes it's true at first glance they appear very similar or even the same but once the details are revealed it's quite different. The differences that I am aware of are: All gold hardware and gold FRETS, different fret profiles, custom wound pickups that are only made for the Jazz, Hardtail bridge and I think it comes set up with 12s?

Simon
Vancouver,BC

'00 Parker Fly Supreme-Butterscotch
'06 Parker Nylon Fly(thanks Jamie!)
'99 Parker Fly Artist w/Ken Parker signature
'06 Parker Fly Mojo-T/Cherry
'06 Parker Fly Classic-Dusty Black
'99 Parker Fly Classic-Natural
'96 Parker Fly Standard-Emerald Green
Title: Parker Jazz Gtrs
Post by: uburoibob on February 14, 2007, 07:56:03 AM
And it has non-locking tuning pegs.

Bob

1999 Parker Fly Artist Custom Hardtail  â€¢ 1998 Fly Classic in Transparent Dark Blue (thanks, Darren!) •  1998 Fly Classic in Cherry Red with DiBurro Roland Mod • Now on a signature reduction program! Just the Flies, maam. •  www.rtmadvertising.com
Title: Parker Jazz Gtrs
Post by: simonlock on February 14, 2007, 08:04:24 AM
Is that right Bob...why do you think that is? The 54+strings fit in Sperzels locking mechanism?

Simon
Vancouver,BC

'00 Parker Fly Supreme-Butterscotch
'06 Parker Nylon Fly(thanks Jamie!)
'99 Parker Fly Artist w/Ken Parker signature
'06 Parker Fly Mojo-T/Cherry
'06 Parker Fly Classic-Dusty Black
'99 Parker Fly Classic-Natural
'96 Parker Fly Standard-Emerald Green
Title: Parker Jazz Gtrs
Post by: titanium667 on February 14, 2007, 10:10:40 AM
quote:
Originally posted by simonlock

quote:
Forgive my ignorance, but what is the difference between a Parker Fly Classic and your Jazz?  My guitar looks exactly like the guitar in your photo and I think I have a Parker Fly Classic (I bought it used last year and that's what the original owner said).
AndyVt



Yes it's true at first glance they appear very similar or even the same but once the details are revealed it's quite different. The differences that I am aware of are: All gold hardware and gold FRETS, different fret profiles, custom wound pickups that are only made for the Jazz, Hardtail bridge and I think it comes set up with 12s?


Wow Simon! A great description! I use 10's on mine but was it really designed to use 12's?
My wimpy fingers are hurting just thinking about it, although I bet it would sound great with 12's! [:)]

1999 Parker Fly Jazz
(http://homepage.mac.com/gtas/.Pictures/smallfly.jpg) (http://www.visitpittsburgh.com/images/db/static/Pens_300_small.jpg)
www.myspace.com/humankindness ¥ www.myspace.com/kidsafterdark
Title: Parker Jazz Gtrs
Post by: godindave on February 15, 2007, 10:19:43 PM
SO the new Jazz isn't up to Fly standards. Agreed that there's a disconnect here and it further confuses the OLD Parker brand image as a top quality instrument. AT LEAST they could offer a high-end OPTION for those of us who appreciate Fly-level. But they're not alone. Seems common as guitar luthiers become part of bigger, more ambitious "businesses" vs. luthiers. And it's not limited to guitar only people. Line6, in my view, makes some great, largely US made amps. Then they offer the Variax guitars that are much lower quality than the amps. The electronics are great, but the bodies & necks are low end. Many Variax people therefore end up swapping out the electronics --- one even used a Fly to hold the modelling electronics.
Title: Parker Jazz Gtrs
Post by: uburoibob on February 15, 2007, 10:32:34 PM
I only WISH I could find a Fly to retrofit the guts of my Variax 300 into. And I wish I had the skills to do it.

Bob

1999 Parker Fly Artist Custom Hardtail  â€¢ 1998 Fly Classic in Transparent Dark Blue (thanks, Darren!) •  1998 Fly Classic in Cherry Red with DiBurro Roland Mod • Now on a signature reduction program! Just the Flies, maam. •  www.rtmadvertising.com
Title: Parker Jazz Gtrs
Post by: godindave on February 16, 2007, 09:33:55 AM
If you DO get a Fly for a Variax transplant, here's a serious warning --- no matter WHO does the work: the guy I read about who did that had major issues with the Fly body being too shallow. He ended up with a paper thin Fly bod in some spots. Maybe using one of the lower end, thicker body Parkers would be better?
Also, consider just putting a better bolt-on neck --- such as one from a bolton Parker -- onto the Variax. That's usually where players realize the most bang for the buck upgrade.
Title: Parker Jazz Gtrs
Post by: Dann Glenn on March 06, 2007, 01:05:43 PM
quote:
Originally posted by godindave
the guy I read about who did that had major issues with the Fly body being too shallow.



Yeah, I've heard this as well.

Dann



Dann Glenn
Parker Guitarsâ„¢ Endorser
http://www.dannglenn.com
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Title: Parker Jazz Gtrs
Post by: sfw on March 06, 2007, 02:11:37 PM
Note thread highjack occured earlier :)

Bob, do you or anyone else know if the Fly piezo feed with drive the variax guts? When I see a Variax 300 available for $300 bucks and I'm at $500 for ghost accoustic preamp and midi, plus another $400-1000 for a Roland VG88-99. I don't know, it might be fun/cost effective to put the variax guts into my nitefly instead. There is a lot of room in my nitefly currently. I also don't think it would be very difficult to route the jack on a nitefly, but on a fly that's a problem waiting to happen.

Due to the special neck joint on a nitefly, I don't think it would be very easy to just mount a nitefly neck onto a variax guitar. I think the soldering would be a lot easier than the neck fitting, IMHO.

- Scott

Fly Artist (purchase fund started)
NiteFly '97
P6; PM10; PM20; Franken-Fenders
Wiggles Murray, Barbie Electric w/matching mic, American Idol electric, Pink Hello Kitty
Title: Parker Jazz Gtrs
Post by: uburoibob on March 06, 2007, 11:00:19 PM
Scott,

The Piezo won't drive the Variax. You'd need and RMC or something like that. And you'd need the guts from a 500 or 700, not a 300 or 600 which are larger and would never fit. So up the ante some more! I kinda just wish US Music and Line 6 could get along the way Roland and Fender do.

Bob

1999 Parker Fly Artist Custom Hardtail  â€¢ 1998 Fly Classic in Transparent Dark Blue (thanks, Darren!) •  1998 Fly Classic in Cherry Red with DiBurro Roland Mod • Now on a signature reduction program! Just the Flies, maam. •  www.rtmadvertising.com
Title: Parker Jazz Gtrs
Post by: sfw on March 07, 2007, 06:05:29 AM
Weeeellllll, I figured as much. Looks like I'll just stick with the Ghost pre-amp and midi then. Maybe I'll find a new VG-99 on the curb some day too. Thanks again for the input. Now back to your regularly scheduled thread topic.

- Scott

Fly Artist (purchase fund started)
NiteFly '97
P6; PM10; PM20; Franken-Fenders
Wiggles Murray, Barbie Electric w/matching mic, American Idol electric, Pink Hello Kitty
Title: Parker Jazz Gtrs
Post by: uburoibob on April 23, 2007, 04:20:12 PM
Check out the photo of me playing it...

http://bobmartin1111.com/photos.html

And yes, it's the most incredible archtop I've ever played...

Bob

1999 Parker Fly Artist Custom Hardtail  â€¢ 1998 Fly Classic in Transparent Dark Blue (thanks, Darren!) •  1998 Fly Classic in Cherry Red with DiBurro Roland Mod • Now on a signature reduction program! Just the Flies, maam. •  http://bobmartin1111.com
Title: Parker Jazz Gtrs
Post by: loumt123 on April 23, 2007, 05:14:26 PM
Would you go as far as to say the archtop is leaps and bounds ahead of others, or is it just a little better then your favorites?
Title: Parker Jazz Gtrs
Post by: bembamboo on April 26, 2007, 11:46:41 PM
Boy, that Jim Hall/Sadowsky,violin burst is georgeous!  I am afraid to bite the arch-top apple.
Title: Parker Jazz Gtrs
Post by: uburoibob on April 27, 2007, 09:54:08 AM
Lou,

if that question was for me, and was referring to Ken's guitar - I cannot stress how different this instrument is. It's so light, and so resonant that it feels like you are playing an extension of yourself - an incredibly loud, sweet-sounding extension of yourself. It is to archtops what the Fly is to Les Pauls. And I am not saying that lightly.

Bob

1999 Parker Fly Artist Custom Hardtail  â€¢ 1998 Fly Classic in Transparent Dark Blue (thanks, Darren!) •  1998 Fly Classic in Cherry Red with DiBurro Roland Mod • Now on a signature reduction program! Just the Flies, maam. •  http://bobmartin1111.com
Title: Parker Jazz Gtrs
Post by: loumt123 on April 27, 2007, 06:22:22 PM
It sounds amazing.
Title: Parker Jazz Gtrs
Post by: loumt123 on April 28, 2007, 09:12:06 AM
Hey, Bob, do you happen to know how that screw in the back works with the neck to adjust action? That seems like one of the coolest features of the guitar and I'm kind of curious to know how it works.
Also, do you happen to know how the guitar is braced?
Title: Parker Jazz Gtrs
Post by: uburoibob on April 29, 2007, 12:15:18 AM
Hi Lou,

There's a very different way of mounting the neck on this guitar that sort of allows it to move up and down without tilting. When viewed looking down the neck, you can see that it sits above the body of the guitar. There's an internal mechanism that couples the neck to the body and allows for the screw to push the neck out from or pull closer to the body, effectively raisning and lowering the entire neck. There may be a great deal more to it than that, because the guitar is still in tune after adjusting the neck. This makes it possible to use a non-adjustable bridge, which gets coupled to the body better.

Bob

1999 Parker Fly Artist Custom Hardtail  â€¢ 1998 Fly Classic in Transparent Dark Blue (thanks, Darren!) •  1998 Fly Classic in Cherry Red with DiBurro Roland Mod • Now on a signature reduction program! Just the Flies, maam. •  http://bobmartin1111.com
Title: Parker Jazz Gtrs
Post by: bno on April 29, 2007, 09:20:26 PM
quote:
Originally posted by uburoibob

Hi Lou,

There's a very different way of mounting the neck on this guitar that sort of allows it to move up and down without tilting. When viewed looking down the neck, you can see that it sits above the body of the guitar. There's an internal mechanism that couples the neck to the body and allows for the screw to push the neck out from or pull closer to the body, effectively raisning and lowering the entire neck. There may be a great deal more to it than that, because the guitar is still in tune after adjusting the neck. This makes it possible to use a non-adjustable bridge, which gets coupled to the body better.
This just warps my mind.  It is absolutely the most amazing piece of guitar luthiery I have ever heard of.
Title: Parker Jazz Gtrs
Post by: loumt123 on April 30, 2007, 05:52:57 AM
Boggles my mind how creative some people are [:D]
Title: Parker Jazz Gtrs
Post by: short11211 on May 11, 2007, 06:19:34 AM
any idea on the price?
Title: Parker Jazz Gtrs
Post by: sfw on May 11, 2007, 06:53:43 AM
It is definately still at the point of, "If you have to ask, then....."

Fender Custom Strat $2400.
Custom PRS AAAAA McCarty $3500
Custom, hand made archtop by Ken Parker.....priceless

I know, I'm no Bob, but sound good to me :)

- Scott

Fly Artist (purchase fund started)
NiteFly '97
P6; PM10; PM20; Franken-Fenders
Wiggles Murray, Barbie Electric w/matching mic, American Idol electric, Pink Hello Kitty
Title: Parker Jazz Gtrs
Post by: simonlock on May 12, 2007, 06:10:18 PM
Has anyone even bought a Parker Jazz guitar?

Simon
Vancouver,BC
Title: Parker Jazz Gtrs
Post by: loumt123 on May 12, 2007, 07:51:03 PM
I haven't seem them, or the new guitars, or the new basses yet. No pictures aside from the pictures on parkers webpage. I haven't even seen the p44 with the upgraded trem yet.
Title: Parker Jazz Gtrs
Post by: parkeraxe on December 10, 2009, 05:23:16 PM
I checked the Parker web site and the link to the Jazz series lands on a blank page!

Title: Parker Jazz Gtrs
Post by: jefsummers on December 10, 2009, 10:29:42 PM
I play mostly jazz, would consider one if I could try it before I bought. I just have no idea how they sound. Sure look cool, though.

1998 Parker Fly Deluxe
2007? Italia Mondial
1995 Fender Std Strat w SCN pickups and GK2A
2002 Epiphone Dot
1999 Danelectro Hodad 12 string electric
1963 Gibson Melody Maker
Various acoustics
Marshall AVT150 with 1960A Lead Cab
Vox AD30
Boss GT-8, Roland GR-30
Title: Re: Parker Jazz Gtrs
Post by: b3rod on February 13, 2013, 10:16:43 AM
Hello I hope you can point me in the right direction. I recently inherited a PJ24. I have no clue about the guitar except that is appears to be a very nice axe. Could you point me in the right direction to get info n the instrument

Thanks

b3rod
Title: Re: Parker Jazz Gtrs
Post by: sybersitizen on February 13, 2013, 10:25:10 AM
I recently inherited a PJ24. I have no clue about the guitar except that is appears to be a very nice axe. Could you point me in the right direction to get info n the instrument

There's Google... and also the Parker 2009 product catalog, downloadable from the Parker website.