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Offline simonlock

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« on: February 26, 2007, 06:42:40 PM »
I get bored pretty fast hearing II V Is and IV V Is. Whats a fun and exciting progression that you like to use?

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« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2007, 07:15:17 PM »
Hey Simon,

Pretty much any chord progression will get boring pretty quickly. May I suggest with playing with inversions and extensions? It' pretty cool when you see other chord progressions growing out of the notes played in addtion to the basic triads.

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« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2007, 08:39:32 PM »
I don't very often play basic triads as they aren't colorful enough.

I went to a Jazz lesson yesterday and he was all about adding extensions to the chords written. I'm still not sure what makes his choice of extensions and alterations functional. It just seems like such a free for all. It's going to be a long time before it makes any sense.

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« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2007, 12:56:22 AM »
On that "Limey Lads" song I used four versions/inversions of a B minor chord as the I chord. The V chord was a F# or an Bb augmented chord, alternating. Using the inversions kind of made it sound like going through a progression but it was staying on a B minor chord. E minor was the IV chord, minor 3rd in the bass 6th string. It was something a little different from a I-IV-V progression. I haven't figured out how to play lead single notes over the augmented chord to blend with the B minor chord. It's the first time I've used an augmented chord in a song I think.

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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2007, 05:37:02 AM »
Chord extensions aren't as complex as they seem.

Chords can be grouped into major categories...I know I have a book with some groupings somewhere in it (I really wish I could remember where you got me thinking now)...but just browsing this jazz theory book it says

   G7alt and (b13),(#11),(#9),G7(b9) mean the same thing.
 

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« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2007, 08:34:38 AM »
I realize that there are plently of options regardless of what the chart says. It just baffles me how many choices there are. May as well just play all 12 tones for every chord it seems. If you've got a piano player comping out whatever his favourite extensions are and you're doing the same on the guitar and some sax is noodling on the others you can easily get all 12 for umpteen bars in a row. How do they organize such chaos?

I think we need a new thread for this one.

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« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2007, 02:49:30 PM »
I like her on top... uh... sorry... you said "progression"...

my bad...

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I get bored pretty fast hearing II V Is and IV V Is. Whats a fun and exciting progression that you like to use?

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« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2007, 09:41:05 AM »
quote:
Originally posted by simonlock

I realize that there are plently of options regardless of what the chart says. It just baffles me how many choices there are. May as well just play all 12 tones for every chord it seems. If you've got a piano player comping out whatever his favourite extensions are and you're doing the same on the guitar and some sax is noodling on the others you can easily get all 12 for umpteen bars in a row. How do they organize such chaos?


Hopefully they are listening to each other and responding to each other.  Communicating!  Otherwise, as you suggested, it can be chaos or noise.

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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2007, 06:03:39 PM »
I like the ii V I progression when it is leading to another key. Black Orpheus is a song I have been working on lately and it is in a minor key. The initial progression is a aminor with a bm7b5 and a e7b9. this requires the a harmonic minor scale and is a wonderful soloing vehicle.

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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2007, 09:27:15 PM »
quote:
Originally posted by simonlock

I get bored pretty fast hearing II V Is and IV V Is. Whats a fun and exciting progression that you like to use?

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If you are bored of playing that you can use this new ones, let me tell you that some of them soun to mucho of the tune but it gets time until you get used to it.
lets say that you are in C major I´ll list in order.

Dm7 - G7 - Cmaj7
Dm7 - Db7 - Cmaj7
Abm7 - G7 - Cmaj7
Abm7 - Db7 - Cmaj7

Let me now how was it





 

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« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2007, 10:05:15 PM »
I understand that the bII7 is a dominant sub. What is going on with the bvi chord?

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« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2007, 11:58:38 PM »
you can substitute a ii chord with the ii chord that's relative to the new dominant chord. so you're basically substituting the ii with a ii a tritone away.

It's a tritone sub on the entire II/V, rather than just the V.

  it'd be written as

     bVI-7  -  bII7  -  Imaj7

Ps: Magnum mike, a harmonic minor scale would not be the best solo vehicle for that progression. You would be in A natural minor for the am7 and bm7b5 chord ,but A harmonic minor only for the e7b9. The harmonic minor scale is what makes that chord a dominant 7 and not a minor 7. This is my reason for not associating improv heavily with sclaes. On some more complex progressions it is hard to define a definite tonal center. Just way to many different scales to remember and associate with the various chord types and situations, plus as guitar players our instrument is a bit different from the piano and various horns...we are always making decisions so we need to think quickly. And that minor blues progression is only the tip of the iceberg [;)]
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« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2007, 12:27:36 AM »
that is one of the craziest questions ive ever heard, ive never been asked that before and its wierd when i read it. I dont think i have a favorite, but i do like the extended dominant functions and the super messed up progressions of zappa and dream theater etc

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« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2007, 08:06:09 AM »
I just wish I knew what anyone was talking about.

I get a headache just looking at guitar tabs [:(]

When searching for music to put together a new song, I do a lot of random searching and have a lot of temporary steps that I know I'll change down the road and its slow and frustrating. Its like trying to find a place in a new city by just heading out into the general direction and doing a lot of trial and error and backtracking.

It sure would be neat to know a specific direction to head out in.

I would guess knowing mnusic the way y'all do is like having a map to steer you to a place you know you want to go but have never been before. Eleviates a lot of the guess work.

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« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2007, 08:25:22 AM »
That's kinda the point Bill. Music theory has always been around to do just that. Explain the unexpalinable. Some people have great maps some have really shabby old ones from 1984 that got run over a couple times. Some even have maps to the wrong city!

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